Shooting video inside a Night Club enviroment *(hidden) at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Open DV Discussion
For topics which don't fit into any of the other categories.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 10th, 2005, 08:33 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 429
Shooting video inside a Night Club enviroment *(hidden)

Hi,

I will be following a Magician in a busy night club and will be taping him as he does tricks to entertain people. The catch is, his audience must not be aware of the camera, that they will be taped. Hidden camera advice is needed.

I've shot before in clubs, with my PDX10. As long as I stand away, I can shoot without being seen, but there are time when I can't so I have to shoot the ground, walk away, or something innocuous.

I am wondering if anyone has any ideas as to hidden cameras? Small, that can stay on the magician. And can be taken to clubs and not be confiscated (some clubs don't allow video cameras). And of coruse, there is also focus, and lighting issues.

Sound should be no problem, if we're recording with a wireless lav setup.

Any suggestions on how I should do this?

(by the way, this is private video, not for public release, so the people in the video are 'safe')
Ronald Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 10th, 2005, 10:06 PM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Venice, FL
Posts: 850
I am not sure I would try to do this without clubs knowledge or permission. Check with a lawyer, but you might be on really thin legal ice if you get caught. That also makes it easier, since you can camoflage camera with a lot of different pre-set objects depending on the club environment.
__________________
You are either growing or dying.
Bob Costa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 10th, 2005, 10:36 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 429
Oh I forgot, the camera will be moving, not stationary, as to follow the magician (documentary style).

It's private video, so legally we are safe.
Ronald Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2005, 07:42 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Bloomington, IL
Posts: 636
I think you should get the consent of the establishment before recording any footage. You said yourself that they don't allow video so it sounds like your breaking their rules.

Also, I question the personal use of any hidden camera material.

Ben Lynn
Ben Lynn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2005, 08:58 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Waterloo Ontario
Posts: 721
there's 2 sides to this one ...

...and at this forum you are likely to get the conservative spin on the issue of your voyeur-like mission. But you are in Canada and also the very liberal (small l) province of B.C. After all, your province (i think) and mine allow women topless in any public place as long as it does not involve commercial gain. Let your concience guide you to get the needed footage in your pursuit of personal expression. Your project seems quite benign and I really doubt that the club cares a hoot about performance rights and copyright exploitation. The no video rule is likely in place to keep incriminating evidence out of the hands of the liquor licencing agencies.

And that's probably where it ends.

If you really need to make a promo reel for your magical friend, then there are very simple ways to accomplish this. If the reel is for a stag party or a double-dog triple dare, then you really need to study hard as to why you would jeopardize your professional career as a video producer to do this.

Fact is, you already knew that!!!

Bottom line: Public location - the rules of public domain rule. Set foot on private property - bring the needed releases and proceed with permission of the owner.

There. 3 slants on the same topic in one tight little post.

Good luck!
Jimmy McKenzie is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:40 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network