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Colin McDonald March 10th, 2012 04:52 PM
Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
Came across this term several times while browsing a film archive tonight. Seems to be used in the context of a tracking shot from a vehicle which is unseen. (Nothing to do with ghosts!) Must confess I don't recall coming cross this before. Any help appreciated.

Charles Papert March 11th, 2012 02:28 AM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
That's an obscure one. I don't recall having heard that. May be an old-timey phrase!!

Brian Drysdale March 11th, 2012 03:33 AM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
Academics can invent terms that bear no relationship to anything used by people who actually made films or TV programmes.

It sounds rather like a POV from a vehicle, otherwise it would be a a rather pointless way of describing a tracking shot. It of sort of implies that the vehicle itself is of some consequence, rather than just a platform to mount a camera.

Academics also can come up with nonsense at times from only reading the"text" but not knowing how to write the "text".

Colin McDonald March 11th, 2012 08:03 AM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
Thanks, Charles and Brian, I think you are right. It might also be an omission or abbreviation for a "phantom ride shot" which is mentioned here BFI Screenonline: Phantom Rides
Quote:
Phantom rides were films shot from the very front of moving trains. The films would present the journey from the train's perspective, capturing the approaching track, surrounding landscape and the passage through tunnels. To obtain these films, cameramen would literally tie themselves and their cameras to the buffer of a speeding train. From this position, the film would appear to be moving by aid of an invisible force, hence the name 'phantom ride' by which they soon came to be known. The first phantom ride, The Haverstraw Tunnel, was made in America in 1897. The concept quickly caught on in Britain and would become one of the most popular forms of early cinema.
Here's a couple of examples of "phantom ride" shots :
Scottish Screen Archive - Search - Results

Brian Drysdale March 11th, 2012 09:13 AM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
I've seen a few of those types of shots from the early 20th Century.

Some show a pretty scary lack of traffic rules and have a few near misses.

San Francisco Trolley Ride and Street Scenes 1905 - YouTube
SF Cable Car runs thru crowded street - YouTube

Dylan Couper March 16th, 2012 11:49 PM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
The phantom shot term has evolved into the ghost ride.

Josh Bass March 17th, 2012 12:40 PM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
Maybe it's where you think you've pressed the record button, then "shoot" for a while, only to find out you haven't.

Allan Black March 19th, 2012 04:11 AM
Re: Definition of "Phantom shot"?
 
Hey Josh, so that's what it's called .. cool I'll use it, better than me telling the client it's just a run through.

Cheers.


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