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Tim Ribich April 15th, 2015 09:42 AM

Basic green screen question
 
Recognizing that neither is ideal, if you had to choose between a Canon XA-10 and Canon 5D Mark III for green screen work, what would you use?

Ade Towell April 15th, 2015 09:52 AM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
5d with all the RAW 444 goodness

Tim Ribich April 16th, 2015 09:25 AM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
I thought the firmware update for the Mark III was for 4.2.2 output externally?

Daniel Epstein April 16th, 2015 10:03 AM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
I guess it depends on how easy do you need to do sound. Picture wise I bet the Mark III would do better but I don't like either internal recording option.

Jon Fairhurst April 16th, 2015 11:18 AM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
Ade is right about the value of RAW for greenscreen shooting. I've used the 5D2 with Magic Lantern RAW for greenscreen capture, and the quality of the keys is fabulous.

That said, the workflow of ML RAW can be ugly.It takes a lot of storage and a lot of time to transfer and process. If you want a fast turnaround, this isn't the best solution.

Adrian Tan April 16th, 2015 03:18 PM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
Raw aside, I think the 5D possibly wins on internal bit rate, but I don't know for sure (fact check it!). For some reason, I have it in the back of my mind that 5D can go to 35Mb/s, and XA10 looks like it maxes out at 24. If you're recording HDMI out, I don't know they compare. Probably about the same.

Color sampling -- I think they're both 4:2:0. But you're right -- 5d wins with 4:2:2 HDMI out. Looks like XA10 does 4:2:0 HDMI out: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xa...10-ninja2.html

Codec -- I think they're pretty much the same. (But I'm not 100% on this -- check it!). But if you're recording with HDMI out, you've got options.

Tim Ribich April 19th, 2015 08:44 PM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
Good info-- from all. Thanks much!
Tim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst (Post 1883571)
Ade is right about the value of RAW for greenscreen shooting. I've used the 5D2 with Magic Lantern RAW for greenscreen capture, and the quality of the keys is fabulous.

That said, the workflow of ML RAW can be ugly.It takes a lot of storage and a lot of time to transfer and process. If you want a fast turnaround, this isn't the best solution.


Adrian Tan April 23rd, 2015 01:34 AM

Re: Basic green screen question
 
For what it's worth, I think what you do to it in post will make more difference than the choice between these cameras.

Only saw this recently, but it's the best green screen tutorial I've seen. Better than Video Copilot.



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