DVD -> Mac, Lossless? at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Open DV Discussion
For topics which don't fit into any of the other categories.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old September 23rd, 2016, 07:08 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Geelong, VIC
Posts: 65
DVD -> Mac, Lossless?

G'day,

The problem with democracy is, everyone is entitled to an opinion... But I'm after the right one!!! ;)

I am looking to convert around 130 DVDs for use on an original AppleTV for my brother who has Down Syndrome. We've tried giving him either original or duplicated copies of the discs themselves, but they just do not last long before they are scratched beyond use, and he has astonished us all by adapting very well to using an AppleTV, with cover-art to help him make his selection.

What I am wanting to achieve is as near lossless a result as possible. My thoughts therefore were that I need to rip as MPEG-2, as that's what the original files are on the DVDs. Hard drive space is not an issue - I've got an external drive ready to go.

Would I be right in thinking that the MPEG-2 option is best? Or would H.264/etc be as good, but with less storage required?

I've been checking out MacX DVD Ripper as it offers MPEG-2 as one option, and the de-interlaced and high quality engine ooptions seem to result in pretty good output... But before embarking on this task, I wanted to get as best advice as I can...

Thanks for your help. VHS was so much easier - he couldn't use them as coasters!

Cheers

Travis
__________________
Showreel
Travis Wheaton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23rd, 2016, 08:00 PM   #2
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 3,157
Re: DVD -> Mac, Lossless?

A quick trip to the specs of the current Apple TV shows no MPEG-2 compatibility. h.264 or MPEG-4.

Your brother has an original Apple TV? Perhaps it does show MPEG-2.

The problem I see is what you do when the box eventually fails - then you'll need to be on a current codec. h.264/MP4 rules the roost right now, with h.265 and HEVC in the wings.

I'd bite the bullet and encode to the most current codec. That's going to be most compatible with the next player... which I think you should be considering seriously.

PS. This is standard def off the DVDs, and you're going to get equivalent quality in less than a quarter the storage space, IF your encoder is any good! I don't use MacX DVD ripper, you'll want to make sure you have control of pixel dimensions and bitrate.
__________________
30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.
Seth Bloombaum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 23rd, 2016, 09:18 PM   #3
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Posts: 11,479
Re: DVD -> Mac, Lossless?

I've ripped almost my entire DVD collection over the past few years, about 600 Movies and 600 TV shows (I'm in a rural area with no cable and very slow internet, so I like having everything stored locally). After trying various things, I settled on Handbrake. I have a couple Apple TV 3's and just use the built-in Handbrake preset for them, it encodes as H.264. There's also a built-in preset for the original Apple TV. Of course you can experiment and customize the settings if you don't like the standard ones.

Never saw an original Apple TV myself, but it is rather unique in that it has an internal hard drive for media storage, none of the later models have that - they fetch high prices from people who like to jailbreak them. My experience is that a typical movie ripped from DVD at high quality is between 1gb and 2gb. They are generally hard to tell from the original DVD's, although very dark scenes with subtle gradients sometimes show blocking.

Anyway, give Handbrake a try it has worked really well for me and it's free. I don't know how much experience you have with the Apple TV, but there can be some annoyances. For one thing, you must have an internet connection at all times in order to access your local library, even though it only consists of DVD's you ripped yourself.
Boyd Ostroff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 16th, 2016, 03:30 PM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Glasgow , Scotland
Posts: 169
Re: DVD -> Mac, Lossless?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis Wheaton View Post
G'day,

The problem with democracy is, everyone is entitled to an opinion... But I'm after the right one!!! ;)

I am looking to convert around 130 DVDs for use on an original AppleTV for my brother who has Down Syndrome. We've tried giving him either original or duplicated copies of the discs themselves, but they just do not last long before they are scratched beyond use, and he has astonished us all by adapting very well to using an AppleTV, with cover-art to help him make his selection.

What I am wanting to achieve is as near lossless a result as possible. My thoughts therefore were that I need to rip as MPEG-2, as that's what the original files are on the DVDs. Hard drive space is not an issue - I've got an external drive ready to go.

Would I be right in thinking that the MPEG-2 option is best? Or would H.264/etc be as good, but with less storage required?

I've been checking out MacX DVD Ripper as it offers MPEG-2 as one option, and the de-interlaced and high quality engine ooptions seem to result in pretty good output... But before embarking on this task, I wanted to get as best advice as I can...

Thanks for your help. VHS was so much easier - he couldn't use them as coasters!

Cheers

Travis
Either Roxio Toast or iSkysoft video converter will do it .
Derek Heeps is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

Omega Broadcast
(512) 251-7778
Austin, TX

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

EVS
(800) 238-8480
Glendale, CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:31 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2015 The Digital Video Information Network