Building a Music Video Library (video rights question) at DVinfo.net

Yegor Sak · January 4th, 2006, 06:41 PM

Im working on a project, and Im doing some research on music videos. How would one obtain rights to play music videos on an online channel? With commercial music videos I imagine you have to pay a fee to the label every time you play the video, but what about independent music, like on ManiaTV lets say.

Anyone have any information on this matter?

Much appreciated

Bob Costa · January 4th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Seems like that would be covered by BMI/ASCAP. Start with them.

Yegor Sak · January 6th, 2006, 01:31 PM

That was helpful, thanks. Anybody know any other sites?

Richard Alvarez · January 6th, 2006, 01:51 PM

Why, couldn't ASCAP/BMI help you? What did they say when you asked about it?

Yegor Sak · January 7th, 2006, 04:30 AM

I wasn’t being sarcastic. They are good sites, and Im looking for more to add some variety.

January 7th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Is there such a thing as variety with royalty collection ? Isnt that like saying to the tax man "im going to look at other alternatives.." Dont you just find out what the procedure is and follow it ?

Here in Australia you pay a yearly fee to the collection agency APRA. Then depending on what you do will depend on how much you pay.. For example if you are a music venue you will pay a lot more than a hairdressing salon.. Then you fill out play list returns for every song performed and hand em in.. At the end of the year APRA adds up all the cash its accumulated, divides it up and sends it to all the people who have had their music played..

Yegor Sak · January 8th, 2006, 01:21 AM

But the thing is, each site represents only certain artists.

January 8th, 2006, 03:23 AM

I just read BMI/ASCAP represents 95% of all music ever written!! And the procedure in the USA looks to be exact same as Australia. With the obvious exception that here in Australia you cannot stop people playing anything, you can only make sure it is registered with the correct percentages for each writer so the money goes to the right place. It seems in the US if you dont want your old band members playing your song its possible to stop them.

Dan Euritt · January 8th, 2006, 12:29 PM

the way to do it is to find bands that will gladly provide music for free, in order to get exposure for their original material... since you mentioned online, the attraction there is that you provide a link back off of the page where your video is hosted.

there is a lot of that in the surfing dvd industry... take a look at volcom entertainment if you need heavy metal music?

it takes a bit of work to find quality original material, but i personally would not mess with those idiots at BMI/ASCAP... this country desperately needs a situation like the aussies have with APRA.

Yegor Sak · January 8th, 2006, 06:02 PM

So if I wish to have a bunch of indie bands, I have to contact them directly? I was hoping for a web site similar to BMI or ASCAP, to make things a little easier.

Richard Alvarez · January 8th, 2006, 06:23 PM

Yegor

Start here.

http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/

The problem is, you either pay someone to do your legal work for you, (like Ascap/Bmi) or you do it yourself.

Yegor Sak · January 9th, 2006, 12:35 AM

Thanks for the link.

Ascap/Bmi charges for a lot more than just legal work, hehe. Hence, it costs an arm and a leg.

Richard Alvarez · January 9th, 2006, 09:36 AM

Pay now, pay later... your choice.

Yegor Sak · January 10th, 2006, 05:01 AM

I did some reading, and apparently BMI and ASCAP only operate in the US. We are based in Canada. Are there any international/Canadian alternatives?

January 4th, 2006, 06:41 PM	#1
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	Building a Music Video Library (video rights question) Im working on a project, and Im doing some research on music videos. How would one obtain rights to play music videos on an online channel? With commercial music videos I imagine you have to pay a fee to the label every time you play the video, but what about independent music, like on ManiaTV lets say. Anyone have any information on this matter? Much appreciated __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 4th, 2006, 10:40 PM	#2
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Seems like that would be covered by BMI/ASCAP. Start with them. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

January 6th, 2006, 01:31 PM	#3
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	That was helpful, thanks. Anybody know any other sites? __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 7th, 2006, 04:30 AM	#5
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	I wasn’t being sarcastic. They are good sites, and Im looking for more to add some variety. __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 8th, 2006, 01:21 AM	#7
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	But the thing is, each site represents only certain artists. __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 6th, 2006, 01:51 PM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Why, couldn't ASCAP/BMI help you? What did they say when you asked about it?

January 7th, 2006, 06:54 PM	#6
Guest Posts: n/a	Is there such a thing as variety with royalty collection ? Isnt that like saying to the tax man "im going to look at other alternatives.." Dont you just find out what the procedure is and follow it ? Here in Australia you pay a yearly fee to the collection agency APRA. Then depending on what you do will depend on how much you pay.. For example if you are a music venue you will pay a lot more than a hairdressing salon.. Then you fill out play list returns for every song performed and hand em in.. At the end of the year APRA adds up all the cash its accumulated, divides it up and sends it to all the people who have had their music played..

January 8th, 2006, 03:23 AM	#8
Guest Posts: n/a	I just read BMI/ASCAP represents 95% of all music ever written!! And the procedure in the USA looks to be exact same as Australia. With the obvious exception that here in Australia you cannot stop people playing anything, you can only make sure it is registered with the correct percentages for each writer so the money goes to the right place. It seems in the US if you dont want your old band members playing your song its possible to stop them.

January 8th, 2006, 12:29 PM	#9
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	the way to do it is to find bands that will gladly provide music for free, in order to get exposure for their original material... since you mentioned online, the attraction there is that you provide a link back off of the page where your video is hosted. there is a lot of that in the surfing dvd industry... take a look at volcom entertainment if you need heavy metal music? it takes a bit of work to find quality original material, but i personally would not mess with those idiots at BMI/ASCAP... this country desperately needs a situation like the aussies have with APRA.

January 8th, 2006, 06:02 PM	#10
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	So if I wish to have a bunch of indie bands, I have to contact them directly? I was hoping for a web site similar to BMI or ASCAP, to make things a little easier. __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 8th, 2006, 06:23 PM	#11
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Yegor Start here. http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/ The problem is, you either pay someone to do your legal work for you, (like Ascap/Bmi) or you do it yourself.

January 9th, 2006, 12:35 AM	#12
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	Thanks for the link. Ascap/Bmi charges for a lot more than just legal work, hehe. Hence, it costs an arm and a leg. __________________ PlanetBoredom.net

January 9th, 2006, 09:36 AM	#13
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Pay now, pay later... your choice.

January 10th, 2006, 05:01 AM	#14
Yegor Sak Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 76	I did some reading, and apparently BMI and ASCAP only operate in the US. We are based in Canada. Are there any international/Canadian alternatives? __________________ PlanetBoredom.net Last edited by Yegor Sak; January 11th, 2006 at 04:55 AM.