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Dylan Couper · February 12th, 2003, 11:16 AM

SHooting a little thing this weekend where one character recieves the beating of a lifetime. I need to simulate blood and facial lacerations, as well as spitting out teeth.
For the teeth, I'm going to use Chicklets gum, cut to size. For the blood, I'm open to ideas. ANd facial damadge, bruising and cuts, no idea. Has to be something that can be applied in minutes. Thoughts? Links to cheap F/X websites?
Thanks!

Dylan Couper · February 12th, 2003, 11:29 AM

Partially answered my own question. Found a great fake blood website. Check it out here

Glen Evans · February 12th, 2003, 11:40 AM

I have just signed up with alamDV2 a sort of "community" SFX software.

Owners of the software send in SFX files they have created. Blood, gun shots, muzzle flashes, light sabers.

Basically, with the software you can incorporate SFX into your movie. I signed up yesterday, but keep getting a file error problem once I have downloaded the program. It won´t install with my XP system.

The site is: http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/

Once I get this downloaded and installed properly, I think it will be fun playing around with it.

Also interested in seeing what others think of this program.

Hope this helps.

Derrick Begin · February 12th, 2003, 01:00 PM

Caro Syrup (SuperMarket) and a mixture of red and blue food coloring mix nicely as blood. Very sticky though, but not harmful if you put it in you mouth.

Raw latex is nice to get the skin wrinkling under abuse. Pretty sick if you can get your hands on the schtuff at a theatrical makeu-up house. Also, doubles as an excellent ager.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

Derrick

Don Bloom · February 12th, 2003, 02:39 PM

just wondering,
are the sfx for the upcoming wedding?

Richard Alvarez · February 12th, 2003, 03:14 PM

Dylan,

You've probably got the Karo syrup formula for blood. (Don't forget a dash of green). This is fine for use in the mouth, just dilute it a bit.

For clothing blood, we always used clear baby shampoo as a base. It washes out of most costumes.

Regards,

Bill - (Who has slain hundreds of people before millions.... don't ask)

Dylan Couper · February 12th, 2003, 05:53 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Don Bloom : just wondering,
are the sfx for the upcoming wedding? -->>>

LOL! Sadly no... :)

I've got the blood covered. I need something to look like knife cuts in skin.

Rick Spilman · February 12th, 2003, 06:17 PM

I have a distinct recollection of hearing an indie horror producer describe using chocolate milk, a dash of corn starch and red food coloring to make blood. Never tried it myself, but that is what he said.

I recall from a hundred years or so ago when I was a Boy Scout of using a thin sheet of latex glued to skin and the edges obscured by some sort of putty, to simulate cuts. The skin beneaththe latex was painted red and a cut in the latex represented a cut in the skin. We used the fake cuts for first aid practice and reused them for Halloween.

Rick

Derrick Begin · February 12th, 2003, 07:11 PM

Make the bood above and mix in some Quaker Oats...

Grotesque...

Bill Pryor · February 12th, 2003, 08:46 PM

Buy Bruce Campbell's book, "If Chins Could Kill." It's in paperback now. He gives the formula for Karo syrup blood.

Brian Huey · February 13th, 2003, 01:49 AM

And it's a great book! I just finished reading it a couple days ago.

Kenn Jolemore · February 13th, 2003, 05:12 AM

Plain old carpenters glue works good for torn skin effect and it sounds like you have the blood down

Dylan Couper · February 13th, 2003, 07:18 PM

I spent most of today mixing glasses of corn syrup, chocolate, water, cherry jello powder, and red, blue, and yellow food dye. Who knew gore would be so tasty?

However, my kitchen now looks like a butcher shop. My bathroom looks like a slaugherhouse, as I was testing consistency by spitting blood all over the mirror (a shot from the upcoming short).

Now, my fiancee gets home in 15 minutes. If you don't hear from me ever again, it's because I couldn't get both rooms clean in time.

Nick Kerpchar · February 13th, 2003, 07:54 PM

Dylan,
For the skin and cuts.... I used some stuff that was called "Mortician's Wax" when teaching first aide classes. It went on fast, looked like pale skin, and could be cut. I use to get chicken bones and make compound fractures that would make some trainees almost bite-the-dust.

There was also some ready-made wound kits, I believe they were called "moulage" kits. They were made of latex but pretty expensive. You could get basic kits to real elaborate ones.

Sounds like you have all the blood receipts you could use. Hope that the "skin" info helps. Oh yes, as far as where to get the mortician's wax.... well, I would start with a threatrical costume shop. If all else fails, I'd then go to the Yellow Pages and look under mortician.

Good luck, Nick

February 12th, 2003, 11:16 AM	#1
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	blood and gore F/X SHooting a little thing this weekend where one character recieves the beating of a lifetime. I need to simulate blood and facial lacerations, as well as spitting out teeth. For the teeth, I'm going to use Chicklets gum, cut to size. For the blood, I'm open to ideas. ANd facial damadge, bruising and cuts, no idea. Has to be something that can be applied in minutes. Thoughts? Links to cheap F/X websites? Thanks!

February 12th, 2003, 11:40 AM	#3
Glen Evans New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jersey, UK Posts: 13	Cool SFX I have just signed up with alamDV2 a sort of "community" SFX software. Owners of the software send in SFX files they have created. Blood, gun shots, muzzle flashes, light sabers. Basically, with the software you can incorporate SFX into your movie. I signed up yesterday, but keep getting a file error problem once I have downloaded the program. It won´t install with my XP system. The site is: http://www.csb-digital.com/alamdv/ Once I get this downloaded and installed properly, I think it will be fun playing around with it. Also interested in seeing what others think of this program. Hope this helps. __________________ Glen Evans, Author. Recent short work. "How to get a Genuine College Degree in 5 days" download it FREE at http://www.ebookdata.com

February 13th, 2003, 05:12 AM	#12
Kenn Jolemore Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: norfolk Va. Posts: 124	Plain old carpenters glue works good for torn skin effect and it sounds like you have the blood down __________________ KennJ

February 12th, 2003, 11:29 AM	#2
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Partially answered my own question. Found a great fake blood website. Check it out here

February 12th, 2003, 01:00 PM	#4
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Caro Syrup (SuperMarket) and a mixture of red and blue food coloring mix nicely as blood. Very sticky though, but not harmful if you put it in you mouth. Raw latex is nice to get the skin wrinkling under abuse. Pretty sick if you can get your hands on the schtuff at a theatrical makeu-up house. Also, doubles as an excellent ager. Hope this helps. Cheers! Derrick

February 12th, 2003, 02:39 PM	#5
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	just wondering, are the sfx for the upcoming wedding?

February 12th, 2003, 03:14 PM	#6
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Dylan, You've probably got the Karo syrup formula for blood. (Don't forget a dash of green). This is fine for use in the mouth, just dilute it a bit. For clothing blood, we always used clear baby shampoo as a base. It washes out of most costumes. Regards, Bill - (Who has slain hundreds of people before millions.... don't ask)

February 12th, 2003, 05:53 PM	#7
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	<<<-- Originally posted by Don Bloom : just wondering, are the sfx for the upcoming wedding? -->>> LOL! Sadly no... :) I've got the blood covered. I need something to look like knife cuts in skin.

February 12th, 2003, 06:17 PM	#8
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	I have a distinct recollection of hearing an indie horror producer describe using chocolate milk, a dash of corn starch and red food coloring to make blood. Never tried it myself, but that is what he said. I recall from a hundred years or so ago when I was a Boy Scout of using a thin sheet of latex glued to skin and the edges obscured by some sort of putty, to simulate cuts. The skin beneaththe latex was painted red and a cut in the latex represented a cut in the skin. We used the fake cuts for first aid practice and reused them for Halloween. Rick

February 12th, 2003, 07:11 PM	#9
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Make the bood above and mix in some Quaker Oats... Grotesque...

February 12th, 2003, 08:46 PM	#10
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Buy Bruce Campbell's book, "If Chins Could Kill." It's in paperback now. He gives the formula for Karo syrup blood.

February 13th, 2003, 01:49 AM	#11
Brian Huey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle , WA Posts: 184	And it's a great book! I just finished reading it a couple days ago.

February 13th, 2003, 07:18 PM	#13
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I spent most of today mixing glasses of corn syrup, chocolate, water, cherry jello powder, and red, blue, and yellow food dye. Who knew gore would be so tasty? However, my kitchen now looks like a butcher shop. My bathroom looks like a slaugherhouse, as I was testing consistency by spitting blood all over the mirror (a shot from the upcoming short). Now, my fiancee gets home in 15 minutes. If you don't hear from me ever again, it's because I couldn't get both rooms clean in time.

February 13th, 2003, 07:54 PM	#14
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Dylan, For the skin and cuts.... I used some stuff that was called "Mortician's Wax" when teaching first aide classes. It went on fast, looked like pale skin, and could be cut. I use to get chicken bones and make compound fractures that would make some trainees almost bite-the-dust. There was also some ready-made wound kits, I believe they were called "moulage" kits. They were made of latex but pretty expensive. You could get basic kits to real elaborate ones. Sounds like you have all the blood receipts you could use. Hope that the "skin" info helps. Oh yes, as far as where to get the mortician's wax.... well, I would start with a threatrical costume shop. If all else fails, I'd then go to the Yellow Pages and look under mortician. Good luck, Nick