Can I measure Lux with my SLR? at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Open DV Discussion
For topics which don't fit into any of the other categories.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old March 7th, 2003, 01:46 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Scotts Valley, CA
Posts: 33
Can I measure Lux with my SLR?

My question is simple, but the answer may not be. Is there a way to convert my SLR light meter reading to Lux? For example if I set my SLR to F1.2 and read a correct exposure at 1/60s shutter speed, that would convert to X many Lux.


Background to my question.
I am in the research phase of picking a Digital Video camera in the $1500 - $2500 range for recording family and church events. I have time because I plan to buy either this summer or early fall. I find that I am most interested in getting the most versatile camera, because I would like to record all aspects of life... both indoors and outdoors, far and near to the subjects, and be able to carry it to remote locations (portable). I realize that every camera has its strengths and weaknesses, so I would like to test what my "REAL" limits are and how they compare to the camera specs... how low of a Lux value will I need, how large of a zoom will I need, and what size can I readily pack for long trips? It appears that the VX2000, GL2 and MX5000/DV953 all would win one of my 3 catagories. To break the tie I need to know more specifically what my needs are.

Thanks for your help and opinions.
Matt McConnell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 02:30 PM   #2
Warden
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Clearwater, FL
Posts: 8,267
Lux can be precisely determined give certain variables. However, manufactures are under no obligation to measure the picture quality under a given illumination (lux). One manufacture may decide there needs to be 75% color at a given lux, while another manufacture thinks only 25% color is sufficient at the same lux. Because there is no standardization of lux ratings the manufactures ratings are useless. You would also need a waveform monitor/vectorscope to do fair comparisons.
__________________
Jeff Donald
Carpe Diem




Search DVinfo.net for quick answers | Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors
Jeff Donald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 03:23 PM   #3
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
More expensive cams require slightly less lux, like a JVC DV500 compared with a consumer PV-DV953. But with a well-lit set or sunshine, video will always look better. Often, it's in the positioning of the cam in relation to where the light is which makes the difference.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 05:15 PM   #4
Hawaiian Shirt Mogul
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: northern cailfornia
Posts: 1,261
i wouldn't believe any of those min LUX listings that manufacturers rate their camera's ... perhaps if they would show a image from a clip that was recorded at their min lux rating we could decide ourselves what's accepable ...

i have to admit i've never have heard/seen LUX used on a set ..
foot candles are used a little on sets in hollywood ... but no LUX ??

IMO there is no reliable way to use your camera to determine F stop on video camera ...
Don Donatello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 06:08 PM   #5
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
Yeah. I agree. Read what I wrote here:

http://www.dvfreak.com/lux.htm
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 06:43 PM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Scotts Valley, CA
Posts: 33
Thanks for the replies, I would have wasted a lot of time figuring out what my personal min Lux value is only to be possibly disappointed.

Hmmm... now what. So then what is a guy to do? Is there any way to determine what camera will meet my low light requirements without purchasing each of the candidate cameras and testing them head to head in a variety of conditions?

Or do you use the process of elimination technique... just buy the cheapest camera you believe might suit your needs and test it, if it meets your satisfaction then keep it, if not return it and try the next model up until you hit your budget limit?

Is there any way to set up a simulation at the store? I have looked at the VX2000 and GL2 at Fry's Electronics.
Matt McConnell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 07:39 PM   #7
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
For lowest lux, check out the VX2000 and XL1S. If you want to spend more, look at a cam which has 3, 1/2" CCDs, and get a nice, wide, clear, $80,000 US lens for it--that should drop the lux by 1/4 of a candle.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7th, 2003, 08:34 PM   #8
Warden
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Clearwater, FL
Posts: 8,267
Matt, how do you buy a car? Do you make your purchasing decision by numbers alone? Did you buy the car with the biggest gas tank, the biggest tires, lowest ground clearance or maybe the most horsepower? Probably not and I think you get my point. The best way to pick out a camera is to test drive them. Go to a big camera retailer or one the trade shows that go to the major metropolitan areas. Then you you'll have a chance to pickup, play with and feel all the cool toys, err I mean tools, you've been reading so much about.
__________________
Jeff Donald
Carpe Diem




Search DVinfo.net for quick answers | Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors
Jeff Donald is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > Open DV Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:13 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network