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Old July 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM   #1
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why HDV to DV?

alot posts here are about how to downsize HDV to DV. The only reason to me would be to preserve the HDV footage for future use. Other than that, why don't we shoot DV rather than HDV then DV? Is downsized DV quality better than original DV?
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Old July 2nd, 2007, 10:08 PM   #2
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Is downsized DV quality better than original DV?

Is downsized DV quality better than original DV?

Yes.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:23 PM   #3
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Why? and what about the "long Gop' drama?
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:32 PM   #4
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long GOP has to do with the compression in HDV, after you convert it to DV I don't think GOP applys anymore... once you render it to a new DV Mpeg file...

I don't see any reason not to shoot HDV over DV honestly... atleast no reason that would make any significant impact on the final product...
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 06:54 PM   #5
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If long gop create problem when you capture image, this problem should still exist even if you downconvert?
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 07:47 PM   #6
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HDV uses MPEG-2 to record more pixels per frame, but at the cost of not really recording every single pixel for every single frame (Long GOP).

DV uses a different compression technique, DCT (Discrete Cosine Transform), recording fewer pixels overall but recording ALL of them for every frame (sort of). The compression for each frame does not involve prior or past frames; you get a whole frame each time.

When you convert an HDV recording to DV, the software recreates the 'missing' frames of MPEG 2 and converts them one at a time into the DCT- based DV format. It has to do similar magic with the audio, since that is recorded differently as well.

If you shoot 16:9 HDV and use only the center part of your frame when you convert to DV, you throw out a lot of pixels in the end result, but who cares? The results are fantastic, and often better than if you had used the DV format for the original recording. Plus, you now have extra image area that can be used to correct for unplanned defects in the original footage.

For example, the boom mic dipped into the shot. No problem, just move that 'larger than frame' HDV image up a litle and it's gone. Caught a gawker or light or C-stand in frame? Bump it left or right and it's gone. Great for stabilizing shaky shots too without softening the image by blowing it up.

So, downconverted HDV looks good, doesn't suffer from Long GOP problems, gives you a high def image for the future, a bigger image frame to use for problem solving in standard def today. The only thing you lose is some time to do the conversion, and that's what coffee breaks were made for, eh?

If you want to learn more about compression, adamwilt.com is a great resource.
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