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Mark Von Lanken February 21st, 2009 12:09 AM

Matching the HMC150 to a Sony
 
I know some videographers are shooting with the HMC150 and a Sony FX1000 or Z5. I have a Scene File for the HMC150 that should make it look more like the Sony. Maybe it would be better to have a Picture Profile to make the Sony look more like the Panny, but this is what I have.

If any FX1000/Z5 shooters would like to try it out, I would like to know the results. Even better, if you have a Picture Profile to make the Sony look more like the Panny, please share it.

Set the HMC150 to Scene File 1 and change the following.
Detail Coring +1
Color Temp Ach +1
Color Temp Bch +1
Master Ped -2 (+2 Outdoors)
A. Iris Level +1 (-1 Outdoors)
Gamma Cine-Like V
Matrix Cine-Like

Tom Alexander February 21st, 2009 12:14 AM

Sounds good Mark.

What do you have for the HV30? :)

Mark Von Lanken February 21st, 2009 12:16 AM

Hi Tom,

No, but I have an HV20. I sometimes use it as a fourth camera at outdoor ceremonies or when the lighting is bright enough.

Dana Salsbury March 5th, 2009 11:36 PM

Hey Mark,

off subject, but when I try to do a four cam multicam in FCP, the timeline gives me the red line requiring rendering. Of course if I render I cannot multicam. Three cams work fine. Have you ever hit this?

Steve Montoto March 15th, 2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Von Lanken (Post 1015570)
I know some videographers are shooting with the HMC150 and a Sony FX1000 or Z5. I have a Scene File for the HMC150 that should make it look more like the Sony. Maybe it would be better to have a Picture Profile to make the Sony look more like the Panny, but this is what I have.

If any FX1000/Z5 shooters would like to try it out, I would like to know the results. Even better, if you have a Picture Profile to make the Sony look more like the Panny, please share it.

Set the HMC150 to Scene File 1 and change the following.
Detail Coring +1
Color Temp Ach +1
Color Temp Bch +1
Master Ped -2 (+2 Outdoors)
A. Iris Level +1 (-1 Outdoors)
Gamma Cine-Like V
Matrix Cine-Like

Mark,

Have you heard from anyone about matching these 2 cameras yet? I own a Z5 and am about to purchase a HMC150 to use for my wedding business also. I plan on using the HMC as the B cam and for the Reception footage so I don't get the rolling shutter issue.

I have the MRC on my Z5 and feel more comfortable having backup recording for the Main ceremony part. Im terrified about loosing footage from an SDHC card malfunction that I have read on reviews people are randomly having.

Your thoughts?

Scott Hayes March 15th, 2009 06:00 PM

I was working with mine today based on Mark's settings. I found they were too green.
Here are mine:

detail coring +1
color temp Ach 0
color temp Bch +2
master ped -2
A. Iris level +1
gamma HD Standard (found Cine V way too noisey, even outside)
Matrix Cine like

I was matching to my EX1, had both cams hooked up to my Sony Bravia, and
I felt they were really close. Let us know what you find.

Mark Von Lanken March 15th, 2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Montoto (Post 1028054)
Mark,

Have you heard from anyone about matching these 2 cameras yet? I own a Z5 and am about to purchase a HMC150 to use for my wedding business also. I plan on using the HMC as the B cam and for the Reception footage so I don't get the rolling shutter issue.

I have the MRC on my Z5 and feel more comfortable having backup recording for the Main ceremony part. Im terrified about loosing footage from an SDHC card malfunction that I have read on reviews people are randomly having.

Your thoughts?

Hi Steve,

I have only spent about 3 hours with a Z5, so I don't have any experience in matching the cameras, but it looks like Scott has a good recipe. Using the HMC150 at the reception sounds like a good plan to eliminate the negative side effects of the rolling shutter with the Z5.

I have not experienced any problems with the SDHC cards and the biggest problems that I have read about were when people were not formatting the cards before shooting.

Dana Salsbury March 16th, 2009 02:07 AM

What kinds of problems? Does that mean if I fail to format a new SDHC card with the 150 that I could lose the footage?

Mark Von Lanken March 16th, 2009 02:12 AM

Hi Dana,

From what I have read, yes, if you do not format the card, you will not be able to retrieve all of the footage.

Dana Salsbury March 16th, 2009 04:48 PM

That's a scary consequence for forgetting to perform a menu operation that is not even prompted by the camera when a new card is used. I've been researching these cams for months, and am surprised that their isn't a HUGE warning from Panasonic.

I would imagine that Dazzle could come to the rescue with the plugs on the 150, so that if you could play the footage on the camera you could capture it as well.

Thanks for the heads up, and for your excellent article on the 150 vs the Z1.

Steve Montoto March 16th, 2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Hayes (Post 1028179)
I was working with mine today based on Mark's settings. I found they were too green.
Here are mine:

detail coring +1
color temp Ach 0
color temp Bch +2
master ped -2
A. Iris level +1
gamma HD Standard (found Cine V way too noisey, even outside)
Matrix Cine like

I was matching to my EX1, had both cams hooked up to my Sony Bravia, and
I felt they were really close. Let us know what you find.

Thank you for sharing Scott. When the HMC arrives I will test it out with my Z5.


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