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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:55 AM   #46
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To be honest, one of my reasons for buying the AC90 was just that - it looks more like a "serious" camera. Anything smaller than that, and we look like amateurs in 99% of people's views. My other main reason was the focus etc. rings and other manual controls (audio level etc.)

I'm afraid the DOF will be quite deep, meaning it will be hard to get nice focus effects. Thats the main price we pay when buying a 2000€ camera instead of a 4000€ one.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #47
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Bad news unfortunately, CVP saying delivery delayed till 5-6th march so i will be luck if its not 2 weeks today now!!

I asked what the delay is and they are guessing 'production problem, hope you have better luck than me Ethan
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Old February 25th, 2013, 11:16 AM   #48
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Well I didnt get any email update from CVP yet but I doubt they'll fulfill my order before yours...
Damn :-( I was so looking forward to it...

EDIT: I got my "postponed" email now, too... I hope "06/03/2013" means March 6th and not June 3rd ;-)

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so i will be luck if its not 2 weeks today now
huh? ;-)

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Old February 25th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #49
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I dont blame CVP although they shouldn't advertise 7-10 day delivery if they don't yet stock or have secured the camcorders.

My first project to use this camera is on 21st march so I have a little time to get prepared as long as it arrives next week :-)

PS I hate waiting for anything ha
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Old February 25th, 2013, 12:53 PM   #50
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It said "Often > 2 weeks" when I ordered. I hate waiting too... but 500€ savings over a German buy makes waiting much easier :-)

I wonder, is this the first-ever delivery into UK? Or could these cameras be bought before but are currently sold out everywhere? There must be hundreds of cameras on backorder?

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Old February 26th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #51
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Update: I just got an email from another UK supplier where I had previously asked for availability:

"Unfortunately our supplier are unable to confirm a due date for the AG-AC90 at present. There's a delay from the manufacturer. As soon as we have a revised date this shall show on the website..."

I hope CVP has a confirmed date and is not just blindly postponing week by week...
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Old February 26th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #52
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I emailed 'Holden' on the 5th february and this is the worrying response they sent me:-

"We have quite a lot of these on back order, which we need to process before we can ship new orders. It’s likely that new orders for AC-90s will not be fulfilled until mid/late March."

I will try ringing panasonic direct again tomorrow to see if they can shed any light here
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Old February 26th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #53
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Hi Luc

The backlit chips on the AC90 makes a big difference and also it has NR circuitry so the gain is cleaner..it's a bit softer but a lot cleaner! Remember the lens is bigger and faster plus you have XLR audio and a whole heap of features that the 900 does not have. Hence the price difference.

You cannot get effectice shallow DOF with tiny sensors but you can get 'pseudo DOF' using the zoom...With the 1/4.7" clips the 90 has almost everything in focus.

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Old February 28th, 2013, 12:47 AM   #54
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I will try ringing panasonic direct again tomorrow to see if they can shed any light here
Hi Phil, any luck?

I looked around for alternative sources but the cheapest I could find was in Holland for 1594 EUR plus VAT, almost 300€ more than at CVP or other dealers in the UK...
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Old February 28th, 2013, 03:28 AM   #55
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Initially I found this

Panasonic AG-AC90 AVCCAM Handheld Camcorder

I phoned them, they said it was the UK version and can deliver it.. but members on here say you should be careful with this supplier
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Old February 28th, 2013, 03:32 AM   #56
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PS just phoned panasonic to see if their shipments are delayed, hang fire as they are calling me back soon
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:06 AM   #57
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I phoned them, they said it was the UK version and can deliver it.. but members on here say you should be careful with this supplier
Yeah they say "Brand New AND In Stock" but further down "(7-10 working days)" so I bet they dont really have stock of their own but just quote their distributor's standard lead time.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:10 AM   #58
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Panasonic have told me Broadcast and Video Technology from Holdan. Tapeless workflows, editing software, professional camcorders and media delivery tools have them in stock BUT they are much more expensive (£1451 + vat which is another £300 on top)

Panasonic says they are their preferred supplier

I have emailed them back confirming that a shipment is due to arrive to CVP next week
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Old February 28th, 2013, 04:15 AM   #59
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Panasonic AG-AC90 AVCCAM Handheld Camcorder

I phoned them, they said it was the UK version and can deliver it.. but members on here say you should be careful with this supplier
I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole!
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Old February 28th, 2013, 05:46 AM   #60
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Panasonic have told me Holdan have them in stock [...] Panasonic says they are their preferred supplier
I wouldn't be surprised if Panasonic conveniently delivers first to (preferred) resellers that don't do pricedumping, and hold off supplying discount resellers for as long as they can find excuses.

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I have emailed them back confirming that a shipment is due to arrive to CVP next week
I suppose you mean "asking for confirmation that..."?
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