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Frank Granovski May 26th, 2003 10:44 PM

One more feature missing
 
After reading one of Allan's posts, on another forum, I see that it is not only the Skin Tone feature that is missing on the North American model (PV-DV953), from the MX5000 Japanese Domestic. The Fluorescent WB setting is also not there.

Antonio Rega May 26th, 2003 11:26 PM

Actually, unless I'm mistaken, when I checked out this camera at a store recently, I could have sworn there was a flourescent light WB setting there....

Anyone care to verify this?

Allan Rejoso May 27th, 2003 01:00 AM

I may be wrong with the 953. I assumed its features are the same as that of MX500 (PAL). After reading through the MX500 (English) manual posted at http://www.dvfreak.com, I didn't find any mention of Skin Detail and Fluorescent WB Setting.

Please verify. The symbol is that of a fluorescent lamp. The symbol for indoor Mode is that of an incandescent lamp.

Regards

Frank Granovski May 27th, 2003 01:53 AM

Maybe Tommy H. can varify this.

On another note, Alan, someone in the "other place," where you posted wants info about your MX5 cheat sheets.

Peter Jefferson May 27th, 2003 02:27 AM

the skin tone is built in from what i can see...
i get awsome skin tones with the unit (PAL) and the white balance settings allows "filters" or corrections for various kinds of lights...

i dont think there is anything missing IMO

Frank Granovski May 27th, 2003 03:01 AM

In the Japanese NTSC version, the MX5000, you get an extra feature called Skin Tone. The MX3000 also had this but the PAL, MX300 did not. It also seems that the Japanese MX5000 may also have a Fluorescent WB setting, in which is absent on the North American and PAL model. It's no biggie, as far as I'm concerned, but it's a good idea to note what's missing.

Tommy Haupfear May 27th, 2003 10:14 AM

Looks like the DV953 has the Fluroescent feature judging by p. 31 in the manual.

Here is a link to download the DV953 manual

http://im1.onecall.com/Image_Product...V953manual.pdf

or here is a capture of p. 31 (only the relevant part).

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2771042.jpg

Antonio Rega May 27th, 2003 10:42 AM

AHA!! I knew it!!! ;)

Thanks for the input, Tommy...

Frank Granovski May 27th, 2003 05:44 PM

Thanks Tommy.

Have you used your new cam to capture any cheeks yet? I got a good pair at the funeral I shot this morning. They were just cheeky.

Allan Rejoso May 27th, 2003 06:59 PM

Thanks for the clarification:

Here's another one for Macro lovers (minimum shooting distance from the lens at 1x zoom):

MX5000: 20mm
MX500: 35mm
953: ?

Regards

Tommy Haupfear May 27th, 2003 07:01 PM

Nothing cheeky of late but the 90 degree weather will soon be upon us and the cheeks along with myself will flock to the nearest watering hole (along with my good friend Fuji).

Of course this year it will be sans poker.

Funeral cheeks....?

Frank Granovski May 27th, 2003 07:37 PM

Yeah, funeral cheeks. My grandmother's long time boyfriend passed away last week. The funeral was this morning and I shot it. I checked the footage, it looks pretty good except for one small 5 second portion. After I shot the viewing, like 15 minutes or so, I went to get the free coffee, but the cheeks gulped it all down. The sad thing about the funeral was that the family didn't care at all. He was such a nice man---but he did have some nice friends who were very sad.

So there are some differences between the PAL and Japanese version. Maybe ol' Chucky was right. I wished he'd be more specific, though.

Tommy Haupfear May 27th, 2003 09:07 PM

Allan,

I'm guessing that the macro measurements you mentioned are from the edge of the DV953 (not lens) to the subject?

If thats the case I can get 7/16" or 11mm (pic below) and still have a clear shot. From the lens itself its more like 25mm (approx. 1") to subject I had to add extra side lighting as the shadow from the cam was getting in the way from my ceiling fan incandescent bulbs. I could have gotten closer but the footage; while clear, wasn't optimal.

I'm not a macro guy so let me know if I'm doing something incorrectly.

Macro (referenced above) (yes the watch died long ago..)

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2780436.jpg


These next two are from a couple of days ago and are also macro but not as close as above.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2729633.jpg

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2729634.jpg

Allan Rejoso May 27th, 2003 10:37 PM

Tommy,

Nope, the minimum distances as mentioned in Pany manuals, are measured from the lens.

It appears to be the same for MX5K and 953.

I also had to add extra lighting from the side because of the shadow from the cam. Yes, it's still possible to get closer but the video will not be optimal as you said.

For macro users, I guess the tele-macro features of new Pany models will be significant (min. distance of 40cm at 10x zoom).

Frank Granovski May 28th, 2003 01:10 AM

Perhaps the PAL version's lens is different because the CCDs are different---more pixels in the PAL version? The PAL MX300 has more video effective CCD pixels than the NTSC/Japanese version.


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