One more feature missing at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Panasonic P2HD / AVCCAM / AVCHD / DV Camera Systems > Panasonic DVX / DVC Assistant > Panasonic DV / MX / GS series Assistant

Panasonic DV / MX / GS series Assistant
...and other Panasonic DV camcorders.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 26th, 2003, 11:44 PM   #1
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
One more feature missing

After reading one of Allan's posts, on another forum, I see that it is not only the Skin Tone feature that is missing on the North American model (PV-DV953), from the MX5000 Japanese Domestic. The Fluorescent WB setting is also not there.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 12:26 AM   #2
New Boot
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 5
Actually, unless I'm mistaken, when I checked out this camera at a store recently, I could have sworn there was a flourescent light WB setting there....

Anyone care to verify this?
Antonio Rega is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 02:00 AM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 569
I may be wrong with the 953. I assumed its features are the same as that of MX500 (PAL). After reading through the MX500 (English) manual posted at http://www.dvfreak.com, I didn't find any mention of Skin Detail and Fluorescent WB Setting.

Please verify. The symbol is that of a fluorescent lamp. The symbol for indoor Mode is that of an incandescent lamp.

Regards
Allan Rejoso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 02:53 AM   #4
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
Maybe Tommy H. can varify this.

On another note, Alan, someone in the "other place," where you posted wants info about your MX5 cheat sheets.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 03:27 AM   #5
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Aus
Posts: 3,884
the skin tone is built in from what i can see...
i get awsome skin tones with the unit (PAL) and the white balance settings allows "filters" or corrections for various kinds of lights...

i dont think there is anything missing IMO
Peter Jefferson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 04:01 AM   #6
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
In the Japanese NTSC version, the MX5000, you get an extra feature called Skin Tone. The MX3000 also had this but the PAL, MX300 did not. It also seems that the Japanese MX5000 may also have a Fluorescent WB setting, in which is absent on the North American and PAL model. It's no biggie, as far as I'm concerned, but it's a good idea to note what's missing.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 11:14 AM   #7
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,415
Looks like the DV953 has the Fluroescent feature judging by p. 31 in the manual.

Here is a link to download the DV953 manual

http://im1.onecall.com/Image_Product...V953manual.pdf

or here is a capture of p. 31 (only the relevant part).

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2771042.jpg
Tommy Haupfear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 11:42 AM   #8
New Boot
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 5
AHA!! I knew it!!! ;)

Thanks for the input, Tommy...
Antonio Rega is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 06:44 PM   #9
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
Thanks Tommy.

Have you used your new cam to capture any cheeks yet? I got a good pair at the funeral I shot this morning. They were just cheeky.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 07:59 PM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 569
Thanks for the clarification:

Here's another one for Macro lovers (minimum shooting distance from the lens at 1x zoom):

MX5000: 20mm
MX500: 35mm
953: ?

Regards
Allan Rejoso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 08:01 PM   #11
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,415
Nothing cheeky of late but the 90 degree weather will soon be upon us and the cheeks along with myself will flock to the nearest watering hole (along with my good friend Fuji).

Of course this year it will be sans poker.

Funeral cheeks....?
Tommy Haupfear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 08:37 PM   #12
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
Yeah, funeral cheeks. My grandmother's long time boyfriend passed away last week. The funeral was this morning and I shot it. I checked the footage, it looks pretty good except for one small 5 second portion. After I shot the viewing, like 15 minutes or so, I went to get the free coffee, but the cheeks gulped it all down. The sad thing about the funeral was that the family didn't care at all. He was such a nice man---but he did have some nice friends who were very sad.

So there are some differences between the PAL and Japanese version. Maybe ol' Chucky was right. I wished he'd be more specific, though.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 10:07 PM   #13
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 1,415
Allan,

I'm guessing that the macro measurements you mentioned are from the edge of the DV953 (not lens) to the subject?

If thats the case I can get 7/16" or 11mm (pic below) and still have a clear shot. From the lens itself its more like 25mm (approx. 1") to subject I had to add extra side lighting as the shadow from the cam was getting in the way from my ceiling fan incandescent bulbs. I could have gotten closer but the footage; while clear, wasn't optimal.

I'm not a macro guy so let me know if I'm doing something incorrectly.

Macro (referenced above) (yes the watch died long ago..)

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2780436.jpg


These next two are from a couple of days ago and are also macro but not as close as above.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2729633.jpg

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2729634.jpg
Tommy Haupfear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2003, 11:37 PM   #14
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 569
Tommy,

Nope, the minimum distances as mentioned in Pany manuals, are measured from the lens.

It appears to be the same for MX5K and 953.

I also had to add extra lighting from the side because of the shadow from the cam. Yes, it's still possible to get closer but the video will not be optimal as you said.

For macro users, I guess the tele-macro features of new Pany models will be significant (min. distance of 40cm at 10x zoom).
Allan Rejoso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2003, 02:10 AM   #15
Outer Circle
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Hope, BC
Posts: 7,527
Perhaps the PAL version's lens is different because the CCDs are different---more pixels in the PAL version? The PAL MX300 has more video effective CCD pixels than the NTSC/Japanese version.
Frank Granovski is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Panasonic P2HD / AVCCAM / AVCHD / DV Camera Systems > Panasonic DVX / DVC Assistant > Panasonic DV / MX / GS series Assistant

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:18 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network