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Old July 10th, 2003, 03:36 AM   #76
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Thank you, Frank. You may, of course, end up being responsible for shifting the balance of payments of several countries (even more?) in Japan's favor if you come up with one. Tell Panasonic with the interest you've generated, they should send you a camera to review (you know, like some of the folks who run other sites get).
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Old July 10th, 2003, 03:56 AM   #77
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Naaa. If I can get some info I'll just throw it up on my site for download, for those interested few North Americans who want a Japanese Domestic GS100 now (or at least some more beef...in English). Allan has done a pretty good job so far. Well, gotta go, my cat's waiting for her supper. :)
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Old July 10th, 2003, 08:03 AM   #78
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any word on a pal unit yet???

would LURVE to play with one..

bit dissapointed with the battery change thou... :( i got loads of batteries and i wouldnt get half as much for what i paid for them..

either way, if the lowlight is as as good as the reports, and teh cinegamma is half as good as the DVX, i'll prolly grab one..

hmm.. drool.... the black one, looks so damn sexy!
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Old July 10th, 2003, 04:44 PM   #79
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Hi again Patricia:

Thanks for your reply. I understand what you say with regards the language. You said you had some knowledge of Japanese but no previous camcorder experience. Obivously your getting by with limited experience. Is your little knowledge of Japanese (if I understood you correctly) a help? I'm sure with a cheat sheet that Allan proposes things would be easier especially if one remebers the menu numbers. Having things disabled in menus is something you mentioned and that might concern me. When your shooting something, we only have once chance to get it the first time. I'm not shooting a movie with several takes, but I'm sure some experimenting will have to take place. Again my main concerns are getting the stuff to work. I understand there is no problem with the Mac under OSX v.2. The camera responds to everything from my readings.

Hi again Allan:

I re-sent you my last e-mail. your last post to me here answered a lot of my questions. Thank you. As you probably read above, I well aware (if I order this camera) a lot of the menus will have to be from memory and by the numbers. I think half of the battle on the road is memorizing. I think if I wanted to transfer stills, MPEG or dub to a VHS I would have to access the manual/cheat sheet. And as you said the shutter speed and other camera features and iris openings are universal numbers - so how difficult is that? If those things are not too difficult then your right it pretty straight forward... But getting to the other "fun" hidden stuff and features under the menus makes it a challenge and therefore you bascially answered what I have been curious about with the language and cheat sheets.

I can only assume (and in TV we try never to assume anything) that this really shouldn't be that difficult - with the unversal numbers you can figure out where you are shutter and iris wise - the other stuff I believe should come naturally once you begin playing with the camera and cheat sheets and get familar with it.

So unless I misunderstood something here, I'm most probably going to cancel my DV953 order after hearing your replies on the above, then I'll ask Allan for his assistance. :-)

Looking forward to the next posts on this subject. Thanks to one and all.

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Old July 11th, 2003, 03:45 AM   #80
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Rick I got your email. Thanks.

Even with the cheat sheets and the quick reference guide in English, I think that you are going to face some nuisance with the Japanese characters. I'm not discouraging you to buy but simply trying to put your mind in proper perspective. If you think you can live with the inconvenience, then you'll be fine with the GS100. Otherwise, I would suggest that you get the 953 (you can ignore the GS70 IMO) What using a Japanese cam would force you to do is to be more mindful of each operation, as opposed to the carefree manner by which we use English version gears. Good thing about most cams is that you simply have to slide back the switch to full auto in case you feel having messed up the settings. In case you're totally lost, the GS100 allows you to reset all menus to factory settings (through menu operations), hence you can start all over again.

BTW, to further qualify my previous post regarding low-light, although I'm positive that the GS100 is an improvement over the MX5K on this aspect, note that I do not claim that the GS100 PER SE is great in low light. FYI I also did the "low-light box" test on the JVC DV5000 and as expected, the JVC produced brighter image...but then again brighter does not mean better.

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Old July 11th, 2003, 08:13 AM   #81
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THANK YOU Allan. I VERY MUCH appreciate your post and the e-mail you sent me. I very much realize your not trying to discourage me, however there is the fact that my daughter would like to use the camera as well for her school projects. Therefore it might be best to stay with the DV953 with english menus. I did read that the GS70 was slightly better in low light sitations, but like you said it's all subjective and while I could easily adjust the PV953 - having the language problem with the GS100 could be more frustrating than it's worth.

Maybe the whole solution is to just get the GS70 the price is outstanding here in the states (745.00) to begin with, then wait a year or so to see if the GS100 does come out in Europe with English menus. Then like always - there will be something better coming to the market... (laughing) because as I always say .... "you can't keep up with it."

Thanks very very much. I appreciate your honesty and help with helping me make a decision.

We'll write again soon I'm sure.

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Old July 11th, 2003, 08:33 AM   #82
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Hi there...

Does anyone know if a manual for GS100 is available online?
Even if it is in japanaese, just to have it online, because I have no idea how I could type in that chars...

Also, I am looking for some sort of online dictionary, other than altavista... Is there one?

Thanks guys... (the cam didn't arrive yet, but that's normal, I'm expecting it to arrive late next week)
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Old July 11th, 2003, 03:26 PM   #83
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Rick, camcorderinfo has just posted a review of the 953. While they don't represent gospel, it's a starting point and will give you a clue of what to check for if you're going to comparison shop. Also, I apologize in advance if I'm telling you something you already know, but the other fora here at dvinfo are superb. There are a lot of participants who are clearly pros or top-flight amateurs, and reading through their posts (as I have been doing) will give you a lot of insight into some of the really important basics - like which tapes to use, which lenses, how to compensate for backlighting, etc. - as well as help you answer other questions the pros themselves discuss. All of that will give you far more than just the 100K or the 953 or any newest device ever could.
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Old July 12th, 2003, 02:24 AM   #84
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Digicam 100 links

Some visitors here may not have seen as many pictures, specs and reviews of the MX7000/NV-GS100K/Digicam 100 as they'd like.

Here's a comprehensive run-down of the pages at the Pana Japan site.

Most of these pages have enough of the information on them in text form instead of graphics-text, that it's worthwhile to view them through the Babelfish translator at babelfish.altavista.com.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/index.html The Digicam 100 front page.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/gashitsu.html Overview of optical and optoelectronic elements.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ga_leica.html Leica lens.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ga_ois.html Optical image stabilizer.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ga_3ccd.html 3 CCDs.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ga_crystal.html Various signal processing techniques to improve images.
http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs10...tal_noise.html
http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs10...stal_axis.html
http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs10...l_degital.html

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/kinou.html Overview of image modes.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ki_wide.html Wide-angle capability, i.e. 16:9.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ki_chinema.html Cinema-mode gamma curve setting.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ki_night.html Night mode, with low-light sensitivity and LCD panel as illuminator.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/ki_shutter.html Shutter speed controls, for stop action or blurred motion.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs10...telemacro.html Macro mode.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/benri.html Ergonomics and user interface.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/techno.html Extensive list of additional advanced capabilities.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/network.html Interface capabilities, and other Pana products they hope you'll buy, i.e. plasma TV, etc.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/3d.html Rotateable view of the Digicam 100 silver version.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/spec.html Specifications. Too bad the camera-controls graphics labels aren't translatable by Babelfish.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/DIGICAM/gs100k/accessory.html Accessories: batteries, lenses and adapters, cases and covers, synced-zoom stereo microphone, illuminators, etc.

Two review-advertisements:
http://ad.impress.co.jp/tie-up/panas...0306/index.htm
http://ad.impress.co.jp/tie-up/panas...306/index2.htm

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/ The master page for all Pana Digicams, including 30, 50, 70, 100 and a little pocket-model (320x240x15fps only) called D-Snap in Japan, or SD in USA.

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/movie/index.html A listing of the Digicams with some basic comparative info.
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Old July 12th, 2003, 03:02 AM   #85
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Wow! Thanks for all those links - and welcome to the forum!

Here's a list of 953/MX5 reviews:

http://www.dvfreak.com/mx5_go.htm
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Old July 12th, 2003, 03:07 AM   #86
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More resources:

http://www.supervideo.com/MXmouse.htm Offers a "MX7000" manual-on-CD for $10. Also a couple of good pictures, and some other info. Yes, the page does show an MX5000 manual, but supposedly what's currently available is the MX7000 version.

http://www.supervideo.com/MX5000manuala.htm Explanation of the controls functionality of the MX5000. Might be somewhat relevant to the Digicam 100, for those trying to decipher what the Japanese-labeled buttons do.
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Old July 12th, 2003, 03:27 AM   #87
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Some questions for the experts and/or Digicam 100 owners:

1. In Night mode, is the Digicam 100 sensitive to infrared light, like some of the Sony consumer cams? Can you use Night mode without the uber-bright-LCD-screen illuminator? Is it always at 8 fps, or is that a selectable parameter?

2. Has anyone experimented with the high-speed mode, i.e. 16 frames at 640x480 at .07 second intervals? Is the color rendition good in that mode, and does it have any special lighting requirements to avoid strobing?

3. Is there a setup choice for 30p vs. normal interlaced? If so, how do the images look in 30p?

4. Is there anything in the Japanese menu for setup of the camera to use the supposedly upcoming Extended Definition DV tape that will have significantly more bandwidth?
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Old July 12th, 2003, 03:39 AM   #88
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John. Regarding the MX7000: there is no such cam. That's misinformation meant to snag in souls who've heard about Panasonic's MX line of cams.
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Old July 12th, 2003, 03:46 AM   #89
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Yep, I'm aware that "MX7000" is apparently a pseudonym for NV-GS100K, which (just to confuse things a bit more) is marketed in Japan as Digicam 100. I mentioned only the MX7000 designator on the manual-CD-offer because I haven't seen what they're selling, and I can't claim to fully understand the reasons for their product-name usage.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 12:19 AM   #90
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Neither an expert nor an ownercbut may I reply?

No, the GS100 does not have infrared night mode (that's why the resulting image is colored). The spec sheets indicate that frame rate is set at 8fps under Color Night Mode. Even if you switch to manual mode and press the jogwheel, the manual settings (shutter speed, iris, gain) are not displayed, thus cannot be adjusted. However when I tried CNM under bright lights, I noticed that video motion appear normal. Hence I'm wondering if the cam automatically adjusts the frame rate (minimum 8fps) under CNM according to the brightness of the subject, or, if the cam actually shuts-off CNM when brightness reaches a certain level. The same case is true for 0 Lux CNM. Note that the LCD continuously indicate that either CNM or 0 CNMS is activated even in varying lux levels, but would only exhibit jittery motion under dark shooting conditions (as in putting your palm very close to the lens).

Under 0 Lux CNM, frame rate goes down to 2fps and the cam prompts you to turn the LCD towards the subject in order to illuminate it (you don't have to if you don't want - but why wouldn't you if it's pitch dark).

Default setting is normal interlaced but you can choose between interlaced and frame mode within the menu. You can also activate frame mode very easily by pressing the Procinema button (but it will be in 16:9 with cinelike gamma). How does frame mode look?.. I'll leave that to 953 owners to answer.

The GS100K is not Hi-vision (HD). There is no setting in the menu for anything related to Hi-vision (HD).

One question, JVC is now marketing a DV tape especially made for its HD1/HD10 cams. The cost is 3x that of ordinary DV tape. I wonder if that is the same as the upcoming Extended Definition DV tape.
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