It is as easy as 123! at DVinfo.net

Fred Garhart · November 26th, 2003, 05:57 PM

To become a film maker all you need is a good professional camcorder and study the manual. If you study more manuals you will become even better film maker. I purchased dv for dummies manual and it has lots of good information about becoming a better film maker. I stand beside myself and want to share this with all of you nice peeople. Have a great day!

James Emory · November 26th, 2003, 06:51 PM

Fred, I am a strong believer in practical experience. Manuals don't necessarily relate to real production situations where experience from other shoots gets the job done and sometimes saves the day. I don't doubt that manuals show functionality of cameras, lighting, and sometimes technique but that alone is not going to do it.

Please refer to this thread for the backstory

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=17308

Fred Garhart · November 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM

Thank you James. I will read that link after I read some more in my professional Panasonic silver PV-DV953 camcorder manual and Digital Video for Dummies camcorder manual. I buy three more today. They are wonderful looking professional camcorder manuals these ones:

50 Fast Digital Video Techniques by Bonnie Blake and Doug Sahlin

Digital Video Pocket Guide by Derrick Story

Real World Digital Video by Pete Sharner and Gerald Everett Johns

John Gaspain · November 27th, 2003, 03:44 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Fred Garhart : To become a film maker all you need is a good professional camcorder and study the manual. If you study more manuals you will become even better film maker. I purchased dv for dummies manual and it has lots of good information about becoming a better film maker. I stand beside myself and want to share this with all of you nice peeople. Have a great day! -->>>

Good luck my brother, you will need it, In the meantime please do post a feature film for your bretheren viewing

Peter Jefferson · November 27th, 2003, 09:44 AM

i have to agree with with james on this one, no matter how much you may know about a camera inside and out, ther eis no way in knowing exactly how a shoot will go until you get there and point the camera at your subject...

i recently did a mini movie for a wedding which started out as a tacky i dream of jeannie clone, but th elocations were just perfect to make it something a little more.

That and the initial music selection was quite tragic,
(this was deliberate tackiness mind you, they wanted it trashy for a laugh)

but after we got to the locations (which i had NOT seen prior to filming) we threw out the storyboard, and went live.

I ended up hanging out of the window of a GT at 80km on a highway with a dvx in one hand holding the cam about 10cm off the ground and a mounted MX500 inside.. now i never considered doing this until i saw the locaiton...

thats just one aspect of one scene...

the point here is that you dont know.

Regardless of how fast i can reconfigure my camera for ANY shoot, my style will need to adapt to accomodate the scene. If i can draw a scene in my mind, the easier it would be however i am primarily an event videographer, which means i DONT have the means to pick and choose how a scene plays out, more likely, i must determine HOW these spur of the moment scenes are presented in the final presentation...

theres alot more to film making and videogrpahy in general than operating a camera.

thats just my 2cents

James Emory · November 27th, 2003, 02:51 PM

Fred, I'm just giving you a hard time. I really do admire your effort and understand your excitment of having a new piece of gear. That effort will get you somewhere, keep it up!

Frank Granovski · November 27th, 2003, 05:11 PM

When I first began shooting miniDV, I just stood there stupid, pressing and re-pressing the start/stop button, and zooming and panning from time to time. As time went on, and conditions changed, I had to figure out the manual settings, and on several different cams! :-(

Though cheap, I always used a plastic tripod. Ugh.

When I got my 1st miniDV cam, I studied the manual and started with auto. Yes, I was an auto man for the first month until I experimented and read the manual some more. :-)

Frank Granovski · November 27th, 2003, 05:20 PM

Forgot to add, the 1st miniDV cam I ever used was a "professional," non-Leica Panasonic 3 chip hand-held, which came with a docking station---which I had to use for audio dubbing---and although it was a hand-held, I always used a tripod, and a chair to sit me down. Thanks for the LCD monitor which I could tilt up and down.

November 26th, 2003, 05:57 PM	#1
Fred Garhart Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 53	It is as easy as 123! To become a film maker all you need is a good professional camcorder and study the manual. If you study more manuals you will become even better film maker. I purchased dv for dummies manual and it has lots of good information about becoming a better film maker. I stand beside myself and want to share this with all of you nice peeople. Have a great day!

November 26th, 2003, 06:51 PM	#2
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Refer to this thread Fred, I am a strong believer in practical experience. Manuals don't necessarily relate to real production situations where experience from other shoots gets the job done and sometimes saves the day. I don't doubt that manuals show functionality of cameras, lighting, and sometimes technique but that alone is not going to do it. Please refer to this thread for the backstory http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=17308

November 27th, 2003, 03:44 AM	#4
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	Re: It is as easy as 123! <<<-- Originally posted by Fred Garhart : To become a film maker all you need is a good professional camcorder and study the manual. If you study more manuals you will become even better film maker. I purchased dv for dummies manual and it has lots of good information about becoming a better film maker. I stand beside myself and want to share this with all of you nice peeople. Have a great day! -->>> Good luck my brother, you will need it, In the meantime please do post a feature film for your bretheren viewing __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

November 27th, 2003, 02:51 PM	#6
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Effort Fred, I'm just giving you a hard time. I really do admire your effort and understand your excitment of having a new piece of gear. That effort will get you somewhere, keep it up!

November 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM	#3
Fred Garhart Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 53	Thank you James. I will read that link after I read some more in my professional Panasonic silver PV-DV953 camcorder manual and Digital Video for Dummies camcorder manual. I buy three more today. They are wonderful looking professional camcorder manuals these ones: 50 Fast Digital Video Techniques by Bonnie Blake and Doug Sahlin Digital Video Pocket Guide by Derrick Story Real World Digital Video by Pete Sharner and Gerald Everett Johns

November 27th, 2003, 09:44 AM	#5
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	i have to agree with with james on this one, no matter how much you may know about a camera inside and out, ther eis no way in knowing exactly how a shoot will go until you get there and point the camera at your subject... i recently did a mini movie for a wedding which started out as a tacky i dream of jeannie clone, but th elocations were just perfect to make it something a little more. That and the initial music selection was quite tragic, (this was deliberate tackiness mind you, they wanted it trashy for a laugh) but after we got to the locations (which i had NOT seen prior to filming) we threw out the storyboard, and went live. I ended up hanging out of the window of a GT at 80km on a highway with a dvx in one hand holding the cam about 10cm off the ground and a mounted MX500 inside.. now i never considered doing this until i saw the locaiton... thats just one aspect of one scene... the point here is that you dont know. Regardless of how fast i can reconfigure my camera for ANY shoot, my style will need to adapt to accomodate the scene. If i can draw a scene in my mind, the easier it would be however i am primarily an event videographer, which means i DONT have the means to pick and choose how a scene plays out, more likely, i must determine HOW these spur of the moment scenes are presented in the final presentation... theres alot more to film making and videogrpahy in general than operating a camera. thats just my 2cents

November 27th, 2003, 05:11 PM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	When I first began shooting miniDV, I just stood there stupid, pressing and re-pressing the start/stop button, and zooming and panning from time to time. As time went on, and conditions changed, I had to figure out the manual settings, and on several different cams! :-( Though cheap, I always used a plastic tripod. Ugh. When I got my 1st miniDV cam, I studied the manual and started with auto. Yes, I was an auto man for the first month until I experimented and read the manual some more. :-)

November 27th, 2003, 05:20 PM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Forgot to add, the 1st miniDV cam I ever used was a "professional," non-Leica Panasonic 3 chip hand-held, which came with a docking station---which I had to use for audio dubbing---and although it was a hand-held, I always used a tripod, and a chair to sit me down. Thanks for the LCD monitor which I could tilt up and down.