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Old April 25th, 2004, 11:41 AM   #1
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still picture quality

I saw a few pics taken with dv953, and the quality was pretty poor =/

is this the case with gs120/gs200 too?

has anyone taken pics that show the best quality images the cams can produce, and willing to show them?
how about using the macro-zoom?
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Old April 25th, 2004, 01:03 PM   #2
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The PC330 (3 megapixels) would be good for taking pics.
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Old April 25th, 2004, 02:41 PM   #3
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I'm not worried about the number of pixels, the GS400 makes 4 Mega stills,, BUT... looks at that one taken with the DV953:
http://www.fortvir.net/albums/album05/DV953003.jpg

it's big enough, but does not look very "sharp"... looks like it was put through a filter of a photoshop to look a bit like a painting.

maybe thats a result from the AXIS ? (the pixel shift)
(after all each CCD has only 800 000 pixels)
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Old April 25th, 2004, 02:43 PM   #4
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The reviews at dvspot have sample stills from the camcorders and I believe they just added a GS200 review.

Just about every camcorder has a lousy megapixel still image but if you reduce the resolution to 640x480 you can get some decent shots suitable for email and web.

http://www.dvspot.com/features

Here are a few 640x480 (VGA) stills I took with my past DV953.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...Picture360.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...Picture455.jpg
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Old April 25th, 2004, 02:44 PM   #5
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maybe thats a result from the AXIS ? (the pixel shift)
(after all each CCD has only 800 000 pixels)
I also think that has something to do with the unacceptable 3MP images from the DV953 (and 3.1MP from the GS100). Of course other camcorders with true 2MP CCDs still deliver lousy pics compared to even the most budget megapixel digital camera.
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Old April 25th, 2004, 03:26 PM   #6
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George,
The pictures taken with the DV953 at 3 Mpxl are interpolated up from about 2.1 Mpxl (3x700K). That gives the details an oil painted look. As Tommy says, the 640x480 mode to SD card or the 720x480 to tape (or in the case of widescreen--872x480) are better, IMO. I have printed some of the 872x480 grabs to 4x6 paper and they look pretty good. However, a good 2 Mpxl digital camera will blow anything the 953 does away.
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Old April 25th, 2004, 05:30 PM   #7
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Thank you for the information. I guess the Multi Mega pixel still captures are more or less marketing scheme =/

Altho it's not that bad, if you reduce the size of the large still, you get decent image....

like:
http://www.alienminds.ca/dv953_fix.jpg

I can imagine from now the 4 Mega still of GS400.... =/
which effectively will be probably about 1 Mega.
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Old April 25th, 2004, 07:03 PM   #8
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I was just looking at the Canon's Xi stills...
looks like there's a lot less noise there.

Why do you think that is?
different interpolation algorithm? different CCDs?
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Old April 25th, 2004, 07:24 PM   #9
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Video cams only have the "stills gimmick" to please consumers. For stills, buy a still camera; for video, buy a video camera. :-))
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Old April 25th, 2004, 07:35 PM   #10
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Why do you think that is?
different interpolation algorithm? different CCDs?
The Optura Xi is a true 2MP single CCD and will yield slightly better stills than Canon or Panasonics pixel shifted 3CCD configurations. I had the Xi and its still are still far from great but at least its an improvement.

I'm with Frank, a dedicated still cam is definitely required but in a pinch camcorder stills (VGA) can be handy.
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