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Old April 25th, 2004, 07:02 PM   #1
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Are we being "HAD?"

If Panasonic buys its CCDs from Sony, wouldn't Pana's chips be HAD?
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Old April 25th, 2004, 09:09 PM   #2
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if DX10's CCDs are HAD... GS400 should be too...
are DX10's CCDs HAD?
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Old April 25th, 2004, 10:35 PM   #3
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JVC buys their CCD's from Sony. Panasonic makes their own. Kinda makes Matsushita a bit two-faced, eh?
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Old April 25th, 2004, 10:40 PM   #4
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I didn't know that. That's strange. So do I have a 1/3" HAD CCD in my JVC GR-DVL9500U cams? Maybe that's why they're good in low light? Hmmm, I wonder. The DVL9500 CCD is 380K with 360K video effective pixels---same as the VX2000's CCD's? Hmmm. :-))
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Old April 26th, 2004, 02:43 AM   #5
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damn I feel stupid....
I just checked that the DX10 has a total number of pixels the expected number of pix of each CCD of the GS400 =/
so It's different CCD for GS400
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Old April 26th, 2004, 03:19 PM   #6
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I just checked that the DX10
You mean the PDX10 correct?
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Old April 26th, 2004, 04:02 PM   #7
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yep =/
is there another Sony camcorder with 1/4.7" CCD?
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Old April 26th, 2004, 04:16 PM   #8
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is there another Sony camcorder with 1/4.7" CCD?
There are several of 3CCD and single CCD.

TRV38, TRV950, TRV39, PC105...
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Old April 26th, 2004, 04:37 PM   #9
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well.. the CCD we are looking for is from a 3CCD cam, 1/4.7", and about 1megapix in size... =/
unless Pana is making again it's own CCDs =/
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Old April 26th, 2004, 07:13 PM   #10
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well.. the CCD we are looking for is from a 3CCD cam, 1/4.7", and about 1megapix in size... =/
That would only be the TRV950 and PDX10 with 3CCD and 1070k pixels per each of their three 1/4.7" CCDs.

My bet is still on 1/6" CCDs for the GS400 but I'd like to be proven wrong.
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Old April 26th, 2004, 08:06 PM   #11
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so.. some hope shines trough again... =)
thats what I thought at first... that PDX10 had 3x1,070,000
but then some SONY page was saying "1070000" -TOTAL
... as you said they are each 1Mega (just saw it in another Sony page too).. now I feel stupid for feeling stupid before :)

It would be nice to have 1/4.7 HAD CCDs. =)

Tommy, all signs show that the new CCD will have more photosensors... more pixels... I REALY hope that it won't be 1/6"
since that means smaller photosensors leading to worse Lux sensitivity than ever before..
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Old April 26th, 2004, 08:29 PM   #12
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<<<-- Originally posted by George Beck :

.. I REALY hope that it won't be 1/6"since that means smaller photosensors leading to worse Lux sensitivity than ever before..

The 3D noise reduction process of the Crystal Engine should compensate for that..somehow..:-)
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Old April 26th, 2004, 08:49 PM   #13
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and with the wider front lens element?
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Old April 26th, 2004, 10:03 PM   #14
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=) I think if you make them any smaller they wll be too small for a photon to sneak-in ;-)

when do you think the official specs will be available?
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Old April 26th, 2004, 10:46 PM   #15
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Full specs haven't yet been released. I'm still waiting as well. Summer's almost at our doorstep. I wonder what's taking Panasonical so long. (Give it up, please.)
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