Possibly the GS200/400/DV953 Killer?? at DVinfo.net

Young Lee · May 10th, 2004, 08:02 PM

The HC1000 will replace the TRV950.

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer...000/index.html

Frank Granovski · May 10th, 2004, 08:08 PM

Is that a DV cam or a MPEG2 cam? If it's a MPEG2 cam it won't kill anything.

Young Lee · May 10th, 2004, 08:12 PM

It's a MiniDV cam.

Allan Rejoso · May 10th, 2004, 08:14 PM

Possibly a GS400 victim :-)). Sony is feeling the Pany low-cost 3CCD pressure ne?

Tom E Young · May 10th, 2004, 08:21 PM

Is this new Sony small and good for good video like pv-dv953 and mabe gs400? How much for this new Sony? Costs more then pv-dv953? Small and easy to hold for run and gun home video? What is the specs for this baby? Good low light and big zoom and big ccds and ois?

Frank Granovski · May 10th, 2004, 08:42 PM

The HC1000 will replace the TRV950? The HC1000 looks like it will compete with the GS70/GS120/GS200. Look at the pic! It's a GS70 look-alike, a copycat cam and probably no better than the GS200. The only difference is that it will be sold as a Sony, and as a Japanese Domestic for a year before it finds its way to N.A. But by that time, it will most likely come somewhat stripped and with a higher price tag. :-))

Young Lee · May 10th, 2004, 08:50 PM

I think the HC1000 looks more like a Sharp cam because it has a rotational grip.

Frank Granovski · May 10th, 2004, 10:15 PM

But it looks like a GS70 & family type, with small chips and all. :-))

Rick Tugman · May 10th, 2004, 10:47 PM

It looks like it's time for Allan to chime in on this one! Interesting and now a little competition for Pana.

What do you think?

Frank Granovski · May 11th, 2004, 01:42 AM

Allan can offer little feedback other that what he can translate for us, since this cam is not yet out. Sound familar? Anyways, it's pic doesn't look anywhere near as good as the MX5, GS100 and even the GS400. It's just another low-end 3-chip---Sony's "copy" for the popular GS70 to get back into the action. Sad, ain't it?

What Sony should do is "fix" the TRV950 and PDX10, meaning make it easy to hold and perhaps carve away some of the plastic. Bluetooth's gotta go too, like we are using it. :-))

If this thread would have been in the Sony forum, my opinion would have been very different, praising this new beast like there's no tomorrow. :-))

Justin Boyle · May 11th, 2004, 02:20 AM

heh i like the look of this cam. its black though frank. it would be great if it did give pana some competition because just imagine that extra low price competition we would get our cheap cams even cheaper. I would still buy pana unless this cam was leaps ahead because i don't like the standard cold colors of the sony.

Justin

Frank Granovski · May 11th, 2004, 02:48 AM

I'm still waiting to find out more about the GS400, like whether it'll be as good as the all-J GS100 or better. If it's not, then I'll go promoting the 5-year-old MX3000, and for our PALS, the MX350. Sound good? :-))

Wait! Maybe those other companies will come out with a good 3-chip---but better than the GS100? I don't think so, but you just never know. If only the PDX10 weren't so big and HAD frame mode and HAD Pana color saturation and HAD a Leica lens. :-))

Carlos E. Martinez · May 11th, 2004, 02:59 AM

The HC1000 seems to have two very positive things, that theoretically should make it a strong competitor for the DV953 and possibly the GS100: the zoom lens is Zeiss (which no other Sony 3-CCD cameracorder is offering) and the CCDs are 1/4.7".

And this important information is no speculation, as several threads on this Forum over the GS400 seem to be based on.

Optical zoom is also x12, like it will be in the GS400.

So I think it is a Sony response to Panasonic's better options for the serious amateur, who is not willing to spend all that money on a PD170.

A ridiculous question now: what sort of number is 1/4.7"? Isn't there a fraction that can better express that number?

Why doesn't Babelfish translate the HC1000 page better and only a small part of it? Isn't that Japanese?

Carlos

Frank Granovski · May 11th, 2004, 03:13 AM

1/4.7" = .212"
1/6" = .166"

I don't see a big difference in size.

Why doesn't Babelfish translate the HC1000 page better...? Probably because most of the specs are missing or babblefish can't read Japanese too good. :-))

Kamal Tailor · May 11th, 2004, 03:43 AM

Babelfish translates text in html, not text in pictures, i noticed as well.....

babelfish does a pretty good job of translating japanese to english, it's just that the understanding of the japanese and the english translations are different, babelfish does a literal translation of the characters it sees, where as Japanese one character may have several meanings. depending on the context of the sentence. i hope that helps a little

it looks like sony is playing catch up with this camera, besides Leica lenses are reputed to be the worlds best. so i think i'll stick with the Panasonic camera for now

May 10th, 2004, 08:02 PM	#1
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	Possibly the GS200/400/DV953 Killer?? The HC1000 will replace the TRV950. http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer...000/index.html

May 10th, 2004, 10:47 PM	#9
Rick Tugman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 105	It looks like it's time for Allan to chime in on this one! Interesting and now a little competition for Pana. What do you think? __________________ Camera: Panasonic DV953 PC: Apple Aluminum G4 Powerbook - 15 inch Final Cut Pro 4 and other assorted goodies!

May 11th, 2004, 02:20 AM	#11
Justin Boyle Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 207	heh i like the look of this cam. its black though frank. it would be great if it did give pana some competition because just imagine that extra low price competition we would get our cheap cams even cheaper. I would still buy pana unless this cam was leaps ahead because i don't like the standard cold colors of the sony. Justin __________________ jlboyle

May 10th, 2004, 08:08 PM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Is that a DV cam or a MPEG2 cam? If it's a MPEG2 cam it won't kill anything.

May 10th, 2004, 08:12 PM	#3
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	It's a MiniDV cam.

May 10th, 2004, 08:14 PM	#4
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Possibly a GS400 victim :-)). Sony is feeling the Pany low-cost 3CCD pressure ne?

May 10th, 2004, 08:21 PM	#5
Tom E Young Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 130	Is this new Sony small and good for good video like pv-dv953 and mabe gs400? How much for this new Sony? Costs more then pv-dv953? Small and easy to hold for run and gun home video? What is the specs for this baby? Good low light and big zoom and big ccds and ois?

May 10th, 2004, 08:42 PM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The HC1000 will replace the TRV950? The HC1000 looks like it will compete with the GS70/GS120/GS200. Look at the pic! It's a GS70 look-alike, a copycat cam and probably no better than the GS200. The only difference is that it will be sold as a Sony, and as a Japanese Domestic for a year before it finds its way to N.A. But by that time, it will most likely come somewhat stripped and with a higher price tag. :-))

May 10th, 2004, 08:50 PM	#7
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	I think the HC1000 looks more like a Sharp cam because it has a rotational grip.

May 10th, 2004, 10:15 PM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	But it looks like a GS70 & family type, with small chips and all. :-))

May 11th, 2004, 01:42 AM	#10
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Allan can offer little feedback other that what he can translate for us, since this cam is not yet out. Sound familar? Anyways, it's pic doesn't look anywhere near as good as the MX5, GS100 and even the GS400. It's just another low-end 3-chip---Sony's "copy" for the popular GS70 to get back into the action. Sad, ain't it? What Sony should do is "fix" the TRV950 and PDX10, meaning make it easy to hold and perhaps carve away some of the plastic. Bluetooth's gotta go too, like we are using it. :-)) If this thread would have been in the Sony forum, my opinion would have been very different, praising this new beast like there's no tomorrow. :-))

May 11th, 2004, 02:48 AM	#12
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I'm still waiting to find out more about the GS400, like whether it'll be as good as the all-J GS100 or better. If it's not, then I'll go promoting the 5-year-old MX3000, and for our PALS, the MX350. Sound good? :-)) Wait! Maybe those other companies will come out with a good 3-chip---but better than the GS100? I don't think so, but you just never know. If only the PDX10 weren't so big and HAD frame mode and HAD Pana color saturation and HAD a Leica lens. :-))

May 11th, 2004, 02:59 AM	#13
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	The HC1000 seems to have two very positive things, that theoretically should make it a strong competitor for the DV953 and possibly the GS100: the zoom lens is Zeiss (which no other Sony 3-CCD cameracorder is offering) and the CCDs are 1/4.7". And this important information is no speculation, as several threads on this Forum over the GS400 seem to be based on. Optical zoom is also x12, like it will be in the GS400. So I think it is a Sony response to Panasonic's better options for the serious amateur, who is not willing to spend all that money on a PD170. A ridiculous question now: what sort of number is 1/4.7"? Isn't there a fraction that can better express that number? Why doesn't Babelfish translate the HC1000 page better and only a small part of it? Isn't that Japanese? Carlos

May 11th, 2004, 03:13 AM	#14
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	1/4.7" = .212" 1/6" = .166" I don't see a big difference in size. Why doesn't Babelfish translate the HC1000 page better...? Probably because most of the specs are missing or babblefish can't read Japanese too good. :-))

May 11th, 2004, 03:43 AM	#15
Kamal Tailor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia, Victoria, Melbourne Posts: 65	Babelfish translates text in html, not text in pictures, i noticed as well..... babelfish does a pretty good job of translating japanese to english, it's just that the understanding of the japanese and the english translations are different, babelfish does a literal translation of the characters it sees, where as Japanese one character may have several meanings. depending on the context of the sentence. i hope that helps a little it looks like sony is playing catch up with this camera, besides Leica lenses are reputed to be the worlds best. so i think i'll stick with the Panasonic camera for now