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Matt Ziegeler · January 12th, 2005, 08:28 PM

i just finished building a mini35 to use with my gs400 but theres still a problem with an upside down image. if you frequent the alternative image section of the forum you would know what i mean. anyway theres a trick than many people including dvx owners have used to flip the image. the trick is to place a magnet near the lcd screen thus interupting the signal and flipping the image. has anyone here bulit a mini 35 and tried this trick? am i just blind and missed something in the gs400's menus which allows you to flip the image?

Mark Easton · January 12th, 2005, 08:59 PM

Hi Matt

Would be very interested in seeing how your footage looks. Any softness or degradation etc

Cheers
Mark

Guy Bruner · January 12th, 2005, 10:30 PM

There is no option on the GS400 for flipping the image, unless you turn the LCD to face forward. However, how about using a mirror? Tilt the LCD toward you until the top edge is pointed at your eyes. Then, put a small mirror under the LCD to reflect the image to you flipped.

Matt Ziegeler · January 12th, 2005, 10:41 PM

yeah i have thought about a mirror but at present thats a last resort if i can't get this magnet trick to work. if i can i'll put some footage up, as far as i'm concerned it looks excellent, the only problem is dust which sometimes creeps in and really stand out in the footage.

Kin Kwan · January 14th, 2005, 11:24 AM

Can you post some footages of your GS400 with the mini35 adapter? It'd be great if you could!

Matt Ziegeler · January 14th, 2005, 04:52 PM

if you can tell me a place i can host the footage i'll try and put some up. for now here are some images, they are just random things i thought would make for interesting tests of my mini35. oh yeah its the static model.

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/8208/skateboardnearfocus3sp.gif
http://img91.exs.cx/img91/9161/skateboardfarfocus2an.gif

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/5258/minihedgefarfocus7qz.gif
http://img91.exs.cx/img91/5748/minihedgenearfocus4ig.gif

http://img103.exs.cx/img103/1331/wallnearfocus9ce.gif
http://img103.exs.cx/img103/7585/wallfarfocus3xa.gif

The grain is still visable but only just and only if your really looking for it otherwise it is fine. the larger problem would be dust which you can see as large black dots. if i had taken more time setting it up i probably could have wiped the dust off.

Joshua Provost · January 14th, 2005, 04:56 PM

Matt, I have a Hoodman LCD hood for my GS400. I bought a 2x3 mirror from Fischer Scientific and put that laying down in the hood and tilt the hood up. Works nice.

Matt Ziegeler · January 14th, 2005, 06:33 PM

thanks that'll save me some time making my own

Matt Ziegeler · January 17th, 2005, 01:03 AM

so i gave up on the magnet idea (it just won't work), so now i'm going with the mirror, but as always theres a problem. although the image can be viewed in the lcd properly upright it is reversed left to right. is there a way around this with any of the gs400 features or i am i stuck. If i'm stuck no big deal i'll just have to work around it.

Joshua Provost · January 17th, 2005, 08:53 AM

My first thought was that there must be a digital effect flip mode, but no such feature, unfortunately. It would be cool if they added this in the future.

Matt Ziegeler · January 17th, 2005, 04:44 PM

it would be awesome if they added it but oh well, i'll just have to get used to filming everything backwards.

Jose di Cani · January 20th, 2005, 05:07 PM

could you please post some videos?

thanks. the pics look great besides the grain. I really need to look a video before I can judge your 35mm sum stuff.

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2005, 02:41 PM

Matt, if you have a video clip or two, I'd be happy to host them here. Just shoot me an email.

Matt Ziegeler · January 21st, 2005, 04:59 PM

that'd be great thanks. i'll be shooting some stuff today so hopefully in the next couple of days some clips will be ready.

Joshua Provost · January 24th, 2005, 12:06 PM

Hey, I have a machine shop making me a nice one-piece M42 lens->55mm ring adaptor. I'll let you know how they come out.

January 12th, 2005, 08:28 PM	#1
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	homemade mini35 and gs400 i just finished building a mini35 to use with my gs400 but theres still a problem with an upside down image. if you frequent the alternative image section of the forum you would know what i mean. anyway theres a trick than many people including dvx owners have used to flip the image. the trick is to place a magnet near the lcd screen thus interupting the signal and flipping the image. has anyone here bulit a mini 35 and tried this trick? am i just blind and missed something in the gs400's menus which allows you to flip the image?

January 21st, 2005, 02:41 PM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Matt, if you have a video clip or two, I'd be happy to host them here. Just shoot me an email. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 12th, 2005, 08:59 PM	#2
Mark Easton New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Posts: 22	Hi Matt Would be very interested in seeing how your footage looks. Any softness or degradation etc Cheers Mark

January 12th, 2005, 10:30 PM	#3
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	There is no option on the GS400 for flipping the image, unless you turn the LCD to face forward. However, how about using a mirror? Tilt the LCD toward you until the top edge is pointed at your eyes. Then, put a small mirror under the LCD to reflect the image to you flipped.

January 12th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#4
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	yeah i have thought about a mirror but at present thats a last resort if i can't get this magnet trick to work. if i can i'll put some footage up, as far as i'm concerned it looks excellent, the only problem is dust which sometimes creeps in and really stand out in the footage.

January 14th, 2005, 11:24 AM	#5
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	Can you post some footages of your GS400 with the mini35 adapter? It'd be great if you could!

January 14th, 2005, 04:52 PM	#6
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	if you can tell me a place i can host the footage i'll try and put some up. for now here are some images, they are just random things i thought would make for interesting tests of my mini35. oh yeah its the static model. http://img64.exs.cx/img64/8208/skateboardnearfocus3sp.gif http://img91.exs.cx/img91/9161/skateboardfarfocus2an.gif http://img91.exs.cx/img91/5258/minihedgefarfocus7qz.gif http://img91.exs.cx/img91/5748/minihedgenearfocus4ig.gif http://img103.exs.cx/img103/1331/wallnearfocus9ce.gif http://img103.exs.cx/img103/7585/wallfarfocus3xa.gif The grain is still visable but only just and only if your really looking for it otherwise it is fine. the larger problem would be dust which you can see as large black dots. if i had taken more time setting it up i probably could have wiped the dust off.

January 14th, 2005, 04:56 PM	#7
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Matt, I have a Hoodman LCD hood for my GS400. I bought a 2x3 mirror from Fischer Scientific and put that laying down in the hood and tilt the hood up. Works nice.

January 14th, 2005, 06:33 PM	#8
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	thanks that'll save me some time making my own

January 17th, 2005, 01:03 AM	#9
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	so i gave up on the magnet idea (it just won't work), so now i'm going with the mirror, but as always theres a problem. although the image can be viewed in the lcd properly upright it is reversed left to right. is there a way around this with any of the gs400 features or i am i stuck. If i'm stuck no big deal i'll just have to work around it.

January 17th, 2005, 08:53 AM	#10
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	My first thought was that there must be a digital effect flip mode, but no such feature, unfortunately. It would be cool if they added this in the future.

January 17th, 2005, 04:44 PM	#11
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	it would be awesome if they added it but oh well, i'll just have to get used to filming everything backwards.

January 20th, 2005, 05:07 PM	#12
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	could you please post some videos? thanks. the pics look great besides the grain. I really need to look a video before I can judge your 35mm sum stuff.

January 21st, 2005, 04:59 PM	#14
Matt Ziegeler New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Australia Posts: 19	that'd be great thanks. i'll be shooting some stuff today so hopefully in the next couple of days some clips will be ready.

January 24th, 2005, 12:06 PM	#15
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Hey, I have a machine shop making me a nice one-piece M42 lens->55mm ring adaptor. I'll let you know how they come out.