MX500, what is the story with low light

Yow Cheong Hoe · May 17th, 2003, 07:50 AM

Call me YowCH for short.

The VX2000 is in the range of Singapore $5,000, and the PD150 is more than that. I do not know the exact prices, as I couldn't afford them anyway, but I should be able to find out in a few days' time.

A car for AUS$5,000, yes. But certainly not in Singapore. The permit to own a car is S$10,000!

Tung Bui · May 17th, 2003, 09:36 AM

Thanks Yowch. From the website on B&H in the states they are selling the vx2k for 2600 for pal which is still half an aussie grand cheaper and the ntsc pd150 is 3000 US. Our tv can play both but I wonder how much worse the quality is. If they can put up with it in US and Japan I guess it cant be that bad.
I did read your reviews on the mx500 before buying but I didnt realize its low light was that bad. Trouble here in Sydney anyway is that they arent very happy to let you shoot in store with their cameras unless you promise to buy it.

Sean Allen · May 17th, 2003, 12:32 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Oh, that's where you are. My mother lived in a small town in Southern Germany during the war years. She says that she doesn't miss it---she does miss the old Berlin where she was born and spent her childhood years, though. -->>>

Hi Frank,

You should bring your mother over here for a holiday, as it's really nice. Ive enjoyed the two years Ive been here.
I live outside the town of Ulm. Ask her if she knows it.
What town did she live in?

Sean Allen · May 17th, 2003, 12:46 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Tung Bui :Trouble here in Sydney anyway is that they arent very happy to let you shoot in store with their cameras unless you promise to buy it. -->>>

Hi Tung Bui,
Thats a shame......
In my local store all the camcorders are out on display, you just need to pick them up and look at them.

I went to my local store today, but they were just to busy to let me do any videoing, i'll go back later in the week when its not so busy.

Frank Granovski · May 17th, 2003, 02:46 PM

She lived in Mengen. I asked her about Ulm. She said it's on the Donau, and has a beautiful, large, Gothic style Kathederale. She also mentioned that Ulm got heavily bombed during the war.

Joe Carney · May 17th, 2003, 05:43 PM

Sean, I used to love going down to Saarbrucken on the German/French border. Great rock and roll bars were down there in the late 70s.

Ho Chee Woe · May 18th, 2003, 10:33 AM

VX2000 is about RM8500 in JB, SGD4000 in Singapore
PD150 is about SGD5200
PDX10 is about SGD4200 in Singapore
TRV950 is about RM6600 in M'sia
AGDVX100 is about SGD5400 (without warranty)

Sean Allen · May 18th, 2003, 11:27 AM

Hi Frank,
We are not far from Mengen. The big cathedral here is the highest in Europe - I have climbed the 760-odd stairs a few times - did your mother go to the top of it? Yes the town was heavily bombed in the war - all rebuilt now and looks really nice. We live outside the town in a farming village - it is non-descript other than roman roads and a famous restaurant! We are woken at 6am each morning by church bells which seems pretty uncilvilized to my english ears!
Sean

Sean Allen · May 18th, 2003, 11:29 AM

Hi Joe,
What were you doing over here in the 70s?
Sean

Frank Granovski · May 18th, 2003, 03:21 PM

I'll ask her if she climbed to the top. But I doubt it, since it was war time when she lived there. (She lived there because of the war, away from the nasty goings on in Berlin.) She took lots of pictures with her Leica cam, though---until a good 'ol American "trooper" stole it from her, after he tried to do the dirty. I hate wars; and my mother still misses her old Leica camera. She'll be 76 this July.

Sean Allen · May 19th, 2003, 02:23 AM

Hi Frank....

Shame about your Mothers Leica camera, I bet it would be worth alot of money today.

Ive taken lots of photos of the town, I could email you some if you are interested.

Sean.

Frank Granovski · May 19th, 2003, 03:16 AM

Pics of Mengen? Sure! e-mail them to me. I'm sure my mother would be interested to see what it looks like now. Thanks.

Sean Allen · May 19th, 2003, 06:07 AM

Hi Frank,

Sorry, I didnt make myself clear, I havent been to Mengen.Next time I drive that way, i'll stop off, and have a look.it's about 80 KM away from here.

I have lots of pictures of Ulm, if your interested.

Here is the web site for the town of Mengen. I couldnt find an English web site-
http://www.mengen.de/default.htm

Tung Bui · May 19th, 2003, 08:07 AM

Wow, those prices in SGP dollars are so cheap when you convert them to Australian. I assume they use pal in SGP like here. That means a vx2k can be bought for 3300aust. It would cost me 5300aust here or 4700 duty free. I wonder why there is such a disparity in prices. I'll definitely be trading up when I travel later this year, hopefully when all the SARS has settled down. Thanks for the reply.

Peter Jefferson · May 19th, 2003, 09:37 AM

hey tung, i might join u in that venture.. LOL
for a 2grand saving, youve got a decent holiday to boot.. LOL

one thing i HAVE to mention is that its not jsut with video gear which australia suffers exhuberant prices...
Its also alot of electronic musica instruments.

The reason our prices are so high is that as far as teh manufacturer is concerned, is that there is not a large market for these items as opposed to our overseas cousins, in turn forcing prices up so they can at least "make a profit" fomr the small market share we hold here.
Its a crock, coz duties and import tax will NOT come to 2 grand..

to tell you the truth, its a joke...

May 17th, 2003, 07:50 AM	#16
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	Call me YowCH for short. The VX2000 is in the range of Singapore $5,000, and the PD150 is more than that. I do not know the exact prices, as I couldn't afford them anyway, but I should be able to find out in a few days' time. A car for AUS$5,000, yes. But certainly not in Singapore. The permit to own a car is S$10,000! __________________ Cam: Panasonic MX350EN, SOLD my MX8EN Mac: G3 400MHz PowerBook, 256 MB, OS 9 PC: Pentium 4 2800MHz, 512 MB, WindowsXP SW: iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Video Studio, various little utilities

May 17th, 2003, 09:36 AM	#17
Tung Bui Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 101	Thanks Yowch. From the website on B&H in the states they are selling the vx2k for 2600 for pal which is still half an aussie grand cheaper and the ntsc pd150 is 3000 US. Our tv can play both but I wonder how much worse the quality is. If they can put up with it in US and Japan I guess it cant be that bad. I did read your reviews on the mx500 before buying but I didnt realize its low light was that bad. Trouble here in Sydney anyway is that they arent very happy to let you shoot in store with their cameras unless you promise to buy it.

May 17th, 2003, 12:32 PM	#18
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : Oh, that's where you are. My mother lived in a small town in Southern Germany during the war years. She says that she doesn't miss it---she does miss the old Berlin where she was born and spent her childhood years, though. -->>> Hi Frank, You should bring your mother over here for a holiday, as it's really nice. Ive enjoyed the two years Ive been here. I live outside the town of Ulm. Ask her if she knows it. What town did she live in?

May 17th, 2003, 12:46 PM	#19
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	<<<-- Originally posted by Tung Bui :Trouble here in Sydney anyway is that they arent very happy to let you shoot in store with their cameras unless you promise to buy it. -->>> Hi Tung Bui, Thats a shame...... In my local store all the camcorders are out on display, you just need to pick them up and look at them. I went to my local store today, but they were just to busy to let me do any videoing, i'll go back later in the week when its not so busy.

May 17th, 2003, 02:46 PM	#20
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	She lived in Mengen. I asked her about Ulm. She said it's on the Donau, and has a beautiful, large, Gothic style Kathederale. She also mentioned that Ulm got heavily bombed during the war.

May 17th, 2003, 05:43 PM	#21
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Sean, I used to love going down to Saarbrucken on the German/French border. Great rock and roll bars were down there in the late 70s.

May 18th, 2003, 10:33 AM	#22
Ho Chee Woe New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 12	VX2000 is about RM8500 in JB, SGD4000 in Singapore PD150 is about SGD5200 PDX10 is about SGD4200 in Singapore TRV950 is about RM6600 in M'sia AGDVX100 is about SGD5400 (without warranty)

May 18th, 2003, 11:27 AM	#23
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Frank, We are not far from Mengen. The big cathedral here is the highest in Europe - I have climbed the 760-odd stairs a few times - did your mother go to the top of it? Yes the town was heavily bombed in the war - all rebuilt now and looks really nice. We live outside the town in a farming village - it is non-descript other than roman roads and a famous restaurant! We are woken at 6am each morning by church bells which seems pretty uncilvilized to my english ears! Sean

May 18th, 2003, 11:29 AM	#24
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Joe, What were you doing over here in the 70s? Sean

May 18th, 2003, 03:21 PM	#25
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I'll ask her if she climbed to the top. But I doubt it, since it was war time when she lived there. (She lived there because of the war, away from the nasty goings on in Berlin.) She took lots of pictures with her Leica cam, though---until a good 'ol American "trooper" stole it from her, after he tried to do the dirty. I hate wars; and my mother still misses her old Leica camera. She'll be 76 this July.

May 19th, 2003, 02:23 AM	#26
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Frank.... Shame about your Mothers Leica camera, I bet it would be worth alot of money today. Ive taken lots of photos of the town, I could email you some if you are interested. Sean.

May 19th, 2003, 03:16 AM	#27
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Pics of Mengen? Sure! e-mail them to me. I'm sure my mother would be interested to see what it looks like now. Thanks.

May 19th, 2003, 06:07 AM	#28
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Frank, Sorry, I didnt make myself clear, I havent been to Mengen.Next time I drive that way, i'll stop off, and have a look.it's about 80 KM away from here. I have lots of pictures of Ulm, if your interested. Here is the web site for the town of Mengen. I couldnt find an English web site- http://www.mengen.de/default.htm

May 19th, 2003, 08:07 AM	#29
Tung Bui Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 101	Wow, those prices in SGP dollars are so cheap when you convert them to Australian. I assume they use pal in SGP like here. That means a vx2k can be bought for 3300aust. It would cost me 5300aust here or 4700 duty free. I wonder why there is such a disparity in prices. I'll definitely be trading up when I travel later this year, hopefully when all the SARS has settled down. Thanks for the reply.

May 19th, 2003, 09:37 AM	#30
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	hey tung, i might join u in that venture.. LOL for a 2grand saving, youve got a decent holiday to boot.. LOL one thing i HAVE to mention is that its not jsut with video gear which australia suffers exhuberant prices... Its also alot of electronic musica instruments. The reason our prices are so high is that as far as teh manufacturer is concerned, is that there is not a large market for these items as opposed to our overseas cousins, in turn forcing prices up so they can at least "make a profit" fomr the small market share we hold here. Its a crock, coz duties and import tax will NOT come to 2 grand.. to tell you the truth, its a joke...