MX500, what is the story with low light

Yik Kuen · May 19th, 2003, 07:02 PM

Hi Tung Bui,

We bought 2 units:

the PD-150 (with local warranty) at about SGD5500 inc. GST and a JVC GY-DV301E at SGD4850 export model w/o local warranty.

All prices quoted by Ho Chee Woe above are quite accurate and reflecting the current market (street) prices.

You could get export models of these 3CCD cams at the following prices :

Prosumer :

1. PD-150 SGD5200
2. PDX-10 SGD3700
3. AG-DVX100 SGD4900 (w/o XLR mic)
4. XL1s SGD5400
5. DV301E SGD 4850 (w/o batt & XLR mic)

Consumer :
1. MX500 SGD 2600 (with photo printer)
2. TRV950E SGD 3300
3. VX2000 SGD3700

Yow Cheong Hoe · May 19th, 2003, 08:07 PM

1.00 SGD Singapore Dollars = 0.883160 AUD Australia Dollars
1 SGD = 0.883160 AUD
1 AUD = 1.13230 SGD

That's the current rate. 13% better in OZ.

The prices for te high end cameras are about there, for the MX500, the price is SGD2300 with some free gifts, about 2 months ago, should be lower now.

The problem with Australia is the tax. Bringing in a camera to Australia is a no-no, unless you can show the customs that you have been using the camera. I remember helping an australian guy get his MX500 here, no problems so far, but the cam was carried into Australia as personal camera, taken out of the box. It may be difficult to convince customs that the PD150 or the DVX100 are personal (non-commercial) cams, and they may ask for local receipts, else - tax! Please check out with other frequent travellers before buying.

And don't forget the tapes. In singapore, MiniDV tapes can be as cheap as SGD4.50 a piece! I buy Sony tapes (red-packing) at SGD5.00 each.

Yik Kuen · May 19th, 2003, 10:38 PM

I travel back to JB (Msia) everyday, bringing along my DV301 camcorder. My partner, carries his PD-150 everyday, in and out too. So far so good. Sometimes, we even carry them in hands!

But, anything bigger than that (the size of VX2000/PD-150), like those shoulder model DSR-250 or JVC DV5000 might be risky.

Nigel Moore · May 22nd, 2003, 01:36 PM

Hey Sean, just noticed that you're an Englishman in the south of Germany.

I'm an Englishman in the north of Switzerland (about 40km to the SE of Zürich to be exact).

Well, waddyaknow?

Sean Allen · May 23rd, 2003, 01:27 AM

Hi Nigel,

How did you end up in Switzerland?

Nigel Moore · May 23rd, 2003, 01:29 AM

I got a job with a US company that has its European headquarters here. How about you?

Sean Allen · May 23rd, 2003, 01:34 AM

Hi Guys,

I got to test the two cams last night (Panny MX500 & Sony TRV950).

The MX 500 was nicer & ligher to hold, but I liked the video better from the TRV 950...

So I think i'm going to go with the TRV 950, as there is not much in the price.

Thanks for all the help

Frank Granovski · May 23rd, 2003, 01:39 AM

Well, you can't go wrong with the TRV950. You'll gain the lower shutter settings, but you'll miss the frame mode and 16:9. You can never win! No cam is ever perfect. But..., if the MX5 had bigger CCDs, lower shutter settings and a beefier LCD, it would be perfect, or d_mn near.

Sean Allen · May 23rd, 2003, 01:42 AM

Hi Nigel,
My Wife also got a job for a US company, I came with her over here, and now look after our 5 month old son.
So i'm a kind of house husband...hehe..

Frank Granovski · May 23rd, 2003, 01:45 AM

"kind of house husband."

das Gemut!

Sean Allen · May 23rd, 2003, 05:21 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : das Gemut! -->>>
Thanks Frank, Nice of you to say so....:)

May 19th, 2003, 08:07 PM	#32
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	1.00 SGD Singapore Dollars = 0.883160 AUD Australia Dollars 1 SGD = 0.883160 AUD 1 AUD = 1.13230 SGD That's the current rate. 13% better in OZ. The prices for te high end cameras are about there, for the MX500, the price is SGD2300 with some free gifts, about 2 months ago, should be lower now. The problem with Australia is the tax. Bringing in a camera to Australia is a no-no, unless you can show the customs that you have been using the camera. I remember helping an australian guy get his MX500 here, no problems so far, but the cam was carried into Australia as personal camera, taken out of the box. It may be difficult to convince customs that the PD150 or the DVX100 are personal (non-commercial) cams, and they may ask for local receipts, else - tax! Please check out with other frequent travellers before buying. And don't forget the tapes. In singapore, MiniDV tapes can be as cheap as SGD4.50 a piece! I buy Sony tapes (red-packing) at SGD5.00 each. __________________ Cam: Panasonic MX350EN, SOLD my MX8EN Mac: G3 400MHz PowerBook, 256 MB, OS 9 PC: Pentium 4 2800MHz, 512 MB, WindowsXP SW: iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Video Studio, various little utilities

May 22nd, 2003, 01:36 PM	#34
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	Hey Sean, just noticed that you're an Englishman in the south of Germany. I'm an Englishman in the north of Switzerland (about 40km to the SE of Zürich to be exact). Well, waddyaknow? __________________ _________________ Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana

May 23rd, 2003, 01:29 AM	#36
Nigel Moore Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 358	I got a job with a US company that has its European headquarters here. How about you? __________________ _________________ Time flies like an arrow Fruit flies like a banana

May 19th, 2003, 07:02 PM	#31
Yik Kuen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Johor Bahru, Malaysia Posts: 135	Hi Tung Bui, We bought 2 units: the PD-150 (with local warranty) at about SGD5500 inc. GST and a JVC GY-DV301E at SGD4850 export model w/o local warranty. All prices quoted by Ho Chee Woe above are quite accurate and reflecting the current market (street) prices. You could get export models of these 3CCD cams at the following prices : Prosumer : 1. PD-150 SGD5200 2. PDX-10 SGD3700 3. AG-DVX100 SGD4900 (w/o XLR mic) 4. XL1s SGD5400 5. DV301E SGD 4850 (w/o batt & XLR mic) Consumer : 1. MX500 SGD 2600 (with photo printer) 2. TRV950E SGD 3300 3. VX2000 SGD3700

May 19th, 2003, 10:38 PM	#33
Yik Kuen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Johor Bahru, Malaysia Posts: 135	I travel back to JB (Msia) everyday, bringing along my DV301 camcorder. My partner, carries his PD-150 everyday, in and out too. So far so good. Sometimes, we even carry them in hands! But, anything bigger than that (the size of VX2000/PD-150), like those shoulder model DSR-250 or JVC DV5000 might be risky.

May 23rd, 2003, 01:27 AM	#35
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Nigel, How did you end up in Switzerland?

May 23rd, 2003, 01:34 AM	#37
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Guys, I got to test the two cams last night (Panny MX500 & Sony TRV950). The MX 500 was nicer & ligher to hold, but I liked the video better from the TRV 950... So I think i'm going to go with the TRV 950, as there is not much in the price. Thanks for all the help

May 23rd, 2003, 01:39 AM	#38
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Well, you can't go wrong with the TRV950. You'll gain the lower shutter settings, but you'll miss the frame mode and 16:9. You can never win! No cam is ever perfect. But..., if the MX5 had bigger CCDs, lower shutter settings and a beefier LCD, it would be perfect, or d_mn near.

May 23rd, 2003, 01:42 AM	#39
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	Hi Nigel, My Wife also got a job for a US company, I came with her over here, and now look after our 5 month old son. So i'm a kind of house husband...hehe..

May 23rd, 2003, 01:45 AM	#40
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	"kind of house husband." das Gemut!

May 23rd, 2003, 05:21 AM	#41
Sean Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An English man in the South of Germany..... Posts: 40	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : das Gemut! -->>> Thanks Frank, Nice of you to say so....:)