DVC80 Newbie's First Impression

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 04:04 PM

you guys are missing the point here..

the DVX100 is for FILM MAKERS .
The DVC80 is for Broadcast Journalists...

two different markets, two differnt cameras.

The DVC80 looks alot like the DVX100 but it's been beefed up inside and out with a more stable transport sytem.

Carl Slawinski · June 2nd, 2003, 04:18 PM

This thread was started in order to talk about the DVC-80.

This just doesn't seem to sink in with the DVX-100 people.

Sure it's fair to make a comparision to the DVX-100, but that's been done already.

Some of you like the DVX-100 and think it's worth the extra premium for the 24P. Great. Some people don't care about it. Live with it and quit bashing the 80 because it doesn't do progressive. That's the whole point. Get over it. Find another thread if you want to praise the greatness of your DVX-100.

Geez.....

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 04:45 PM

yes, sony had the MINI DV broadcast market for a few years now, Panasonic is just trying to blow sony off the map with the Fine DVC80.

Anyhow, back on topic, Carl what are your impressions so faR?

Stephen van Vuuren · June 2nd, 2003, 04:57 PM

Carl:

Feel free to post as much info about the DVC80 as you want. But the precise differences (construction, marketing, cost) between the DVC80 and DVX100 are an important topic.

I'll start a new thread so you won't be forced to read about the DVX-100 :)

Jarred:

The DVC80's transport is just the same as the DVX100 according to the brochure on Panasonic's site.

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 06:35 PM

actually when I talked to Panasonic at Nab they told me that the DV mechanisms where different.... the dvc80 is more "solid".

Carl Slawinski · June 2nd, 2003, 07:39 PM

Jarred, unfortunately I haven't gotten a lot of stick time on it yet. Barely any as a matter of fact. Wife had the weekend booked up.

I'm aiming on getting some serious time in during the next 2 weekends. I'm still afraid to leave the thing out of the box and original packaging if it is not in my hands. hahaha

I have the rest of my stuff coming on Wednesday (tripod, shotgun mic, cables, and hard case). Once I get the hard case I'll feel better about having it out of the original packing.

I'm real curious to see how the audio is going to be. This is probably the biggest reservation I had about the PD150.

I'll post my thoughts when I play with it more.

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 07:42 PM

hey did you get the pelican case?

Chris Hurd · June 2nd, 2003, 07:44 PM

<< actually when I talked to Panasonic at Nab they told me that the DV mechanisms where different.... the dvc80 is more "solid". >>

PBS is here in Orlando at InfoComm, where I'm stuck all week. I'll ask Stuart English for a definitive answer on this topic as it definitely has my interest.

Carl Slawinski · June 2nd, 2003, 07:47 PM

I bought the Panasonic case. I almost had a heart attack when I seen the price of it and frankly I haven't any seen any good pictures of it. However, for the money it I would imagine that it has to be top notch. If not, I suppose I could return it. (although I never return anything)

I'll let you know what I think of it when I get it.

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 07:51 PM

great let me know.. that case looks pretty sweet, but is way too rich for my blood, Im a little jelous.

Chris Hurd · June 2nd, 2003, 07:57 PM

Hey Carl, do you suppose you could take a good phto of that case and email it to me? I'll put it on the site for anyone else who wants a good look at it.

Jarred Land · June 2nd, 2003, 08:00 PM

that would be excellent Chris :)

Carl Slawinski · June 2nd, 2003, 08:04 PM

Chris,

Sure. I always love to have an opportunity to make use of that digital camera I bought for my wife last year. 8-)

Chris Hurd · June 3rd, 2003, 03:54 PM

To repeat myself from another thread in this forum on the same topic, I spoke with Stuart English of Panasonic Broadcast Systems face to face today, and he clarified what I already knew, so hopefully this will clear up any confusion:

There is NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL in body construction between the 100 and the 80. They share the exact same mag alloy chassis. Also, there is NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL in the tape transport mechanism between the two models.

He said he'd try to post here about this when it's convenient for him. Hope this helps,

Stephen van Vuuren · June 3rd, 2003, 04:11 PM

Thanks Chris for getting the info in person. That should clarify a lot of confusion.

Also it explains why I got an "Out of Office" when I emailed Stuart :)

June 2nd, 2003, 04:57 PM	#19
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Carl: Feel free to post as much info about the DVC80 as you want. But the precise differences (construction, marketing, cost) between the DVC80 and DVX100 are an important topic. I'll start a new thread so you won't be forced to read about the DVX-100 :) Jarred: The DVC80's transport is just the same as the DVX100 according to the brochure on Panasonic's site. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

June 2nd, 2003, 07:44 PM	#23
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	<< actually when I talked to Panasonic at Nab they told me that the DV mechanisms where different.... the dvc80 is more "solid". >> PBS is here in Orlando at InfoComm, where I'm stuck all week. I'll ask Stuart English for a definitive answer on this topic as it definitely has my interest. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 2nd, 2003, 07:57 PM	#26
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hey Carl, do you suppose you could take a good phto of that case and email it to me? I'll put it on the site for anyone else who wants a good look at it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 3rd, 2003, 03:54 PM	#29
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	To repeat myself from another thread in this forum on the same topic, I spoke with Stuart English of Panasonic Broadcast Systems face to face today, and he clarified what I already knew, so hopefully this will clear up any confusion: There is NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL in body construction between the 100 and the 80. They share the exact same mag alloy chassis. Also, there is NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL in the tape transport mechanism between the two models. He said he'd try to post here about this when it's convenient for him. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 3rd, 2003, 04:11 PM	#30
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Thanks Chris for getting the info in person. That should clarify a lot of confusion. Also it explains why I got an "Out of Office" when I emailed Stuart :) __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

June 2nd, 2003, 04:04 PM	#16
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	you guys are missing the point here.. the DVX100 is for FILM MAKERS . The DVC80 is for Broadcast Journalists... two different markets, two differnt cameras. The DVC80 looks alot like the DVX100 but it's been beefed up inside and out with a more stable transport sytem.

June 2nd, 2003, 04:18 PM	#17
Carl Slawinski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mount Prospect, IL Posts: 67	This thread was started in order to talk about the DVC-80. This just doesn't seem to sink in with the DVX-100 people. Sure it's fair to make a comparision to the DVX-100, but that's been done already. Some of you like the DVX-100 and think it's worth the extra premium for the 24P. Great. Some people don't care about it. Live with it and quit bashing the 80 because it doesn't do progressive. That's the whole point. Get over it. Find another thread if you want to praise the greatness of your DVX-100. Geez.....

June 2nd, 2003, 04:45 PM	#18
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	yes, sony had the MINI DV broadcast market for a few years now, Panasonic is just trying to blow sony off the map with the Fine DVC80. Anyhow, back on topic, Carl what are your impressions so faR?

June 2nd, 2003, 06:35 PM	#20
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	actually when I talked to Panasonic at Nab they told me that the DV mechanisms where different.... the dvc80 is more "solid".

June 2nd, 2003, 07:39 PM	#21
Carl Slawinski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mount Prospect, IL Posts: 67	Jarred, unfortunately I haven't gotten a lot of stick time on it yet. Barely any as a matter of fact. Wife had the weekend booked up. I'm aiming on getting some serious time in during the next 2 weekends. I'm still afraid to leave the thing out of the box and original packaging if it is not in my hands. hahaha I have the rest of my stuff coming on Wednesday (tripod, shotgun mic, cables, and hard case). Once I get the hard case I'll feel better about having it out of the original packing. I'm real curious to see how the audio is going to be. This is probably the biggest reservation I had about the PD150. I'll post my thoughts when I play with it more.

June 2nd, 2003, 07:42 PM	#22
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	hey did you get the pelican case?

June 2nd, 2003, 07:47 PM	#24
Carl Slawinski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mount Prospect, IL Posts: 67	I bought the Panasonic case. I almost had a heart attack when I seen the price of it and frankly I haven't any seen any good pictures of it. However, for the money it I would imagine that it has to be top notch. If not, I suppose I could return it. (although I never return anything) I'll let you know what I think of it when I get it.

June 2nd, 2003, 07:51 PM	#25
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	great let me know.. that case looks pretty sweet, but is way too rich for my blood, Im a little jelous.

June 2nd, 2003, 08:00 PM	#27
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	that would be excellent Chris :)

June 2nd, 2003, 08:04 PM	#28
Carl Slawinski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mount Prospect, IL Posts: 67	Chris, Sure. I always love to have an opportunity to make use of that digital camera I bought for my wife last year. 8-)