Tape Question at DVinfo.net

Craig Hollenback · September 11th, 2003, 01:25 PM

Barry,
I've been reading about the amazing amounts of production work being done with the DVX100(such as a new series on TechTV) ...so much so that it has pushed me over the edge to be extremely excited about that concept. Living near Maimi, it would appear that there is quite a bit of work in the 24 and 30p format being shot here. Further, we have a TV spot coming up that I can't wait to shoot in 30p. SO! I'm ordering the DVX100 for all of the reasons that we've discussed and because it seems to be a truely professional camera. My only concern is tape manufacturers. I have exclusevly used Sony on my DV500 and XL-1 and Betacam with never a problem. My edit deck is a use Sony tape on the DVX100? Reason I ask, is I would hate to introduce a different formula to the DSR40 for playback.Although, I don't know if running different tapes through that deck in playback only would hurt it. Thoughts? PS...We're actually giving the LadyX concept some serious thought...perhaps a cameo in Palm Beach. tnx, Craig

Barry Goyette · September 11th, 2003, 03:06 PM

I switched to panasonic MQ tapes with the addition of the Panasonic camera, the temporary demise of my gl2 (and a new ag-dvx2500 deck to boot)..I don't know if they are any better...although I'm not having as many dropouts as with the sony's..(but that could have been the gl2)...The panasonic tape "case" is nicer...rubberized with a neat pop open top...I don't know if this is a reason to switch. Panasonic recommends running a cleaning tape whenever changing tape brands...I'd probably stick with that advice.

Barry

Ozzie Leon · September 17th, 2003, 11:27 AM

Stick with the panasonic AY-DVM63MQ.

Desi Tury · September 19th, 2003, 01:01 AM

if i only have 24hours of time on mt cam but want to swich tapes should i use the cleaning tape first? or not worry about it....

under (other functions)
my (hour meter) reads ooo26....
what do you think?

ps anything wrong with the panasonic ME dvm60 tapes?
if so what?

Frank Granovski · September 19th, 2003, 08:16 AM

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ps anything wrong with the panasonic ME dvm60 tapes

I used this tape in my first MX3, and my sister in law, who now owns the cam, has continued using this type/brand. So far no problems; and I'm still using Fuji (with no problems).

Desi Tury · September 19th, 2003, 11:53 AM

I have DVX100 should i use the cleaning tape if i'm going from sony to panasonic?
Even if i only have about 11 hours rec time and 10 hours playing time on the cam?
Becouse they say, it is not good to use the cleaning tape unless you have have to ?

thank you........

Frank Granovski · September 19th, 2003, 03:02 PM

Here is some reading:

http://www.dvfreak.com/tape.htm

Desi Tury · September 19th, 2003, 03:18 PM

Frank ....

Would you, or would you not use the cleaning tape with this new of a cam?..
Or dose the rule (if it's not broke, don't fix it) apply here?

thank you......

Frank Granovski · September 19th, 2003, 03:53 PM

I would not clean the heads unless they needed cleaning, or needed cleaning because I'm switching tape brands/types---which I don't---so I've never needed to clean my heads while using Fuji. Years ago, when I wasn't using Fuji, head cleaning went hand in hand with shooting and playing back the footage. (I don't have this probelm now---thanks, Fuji!) :-)

Jarred Land · September 20th, 2003, 05:50 PM

that link is nice... one of the reasons I use Fuji in my DVX... but careful following the links below that page.. some of the information on those linked pages is totally false.

Frank Granovski · September 20th, 2003, 07:21 PM

I agree. But I tried to find as many tape related links as I could, and put them in there. About 5 years ago I found a fantastic link but it seemed to have disappeared a few years back. It was an extensive test on tapes, done by a guy for his masters or PHD or something like that. From what I recall, Fuji came out on top, with Pana right behind, but I can't recall which Pana tape that was. Sony didn't fair well at all in that test, though I'm sure its improved over the years. Who knows!

Jarred Land · September 20th, 2003, 07:29 PM

yeah it was pretty solid info mostly, just the one page that thought all the tapes where dry lube was a little commical. I guess it is a little confusing.

September 11th, 2003, 01:25 PM	#1
Craig Hollenback Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Key West Posts: 247	tape question Barry, I've been reading about the amazing amounts of production work being done with the DVX100(such as a new series on TechTV) ...so much so that it has pushed me over the edge to be extremely excited about that concept. Living near Maimi, it would appear that there is quite a bit of work in the 24 and 30p format being shot here. Further, we have a TV spot coming up that I can't wait to shoot in 30p. SO! I'm ordering the DVX100 for all of the reasons that we've discussed and because it seems to be a truely professional camera. My only concern is tape manufacturers. I have exclusevly used Sony on my DV500 and XL-1 and Betacam with never a problem. My edit deck is a use Sony tape on the DVX100? Reason I ask, is I would hate to introduce a different formula to the DSR40 for playback.Although, I don't know if running different tapes through that deck in playback only would hurt it. Thoughts? PS...We're actually giving the LadyX concept some serious thought...perhaps a cameo in Palm Beach. tnx, Craig

September 17th, 2003, 11:27 AM	#3
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	Tape Stick with the panasonic AY-DVM63MQ. __________________ Ozzie Leon

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September 11th, 2003, 03:06 PM	#2
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	I switched to panasonic MQ tapes with the addition of the Panasonic camera, the temporary demise of my gl2 (and a new ag-dvx2500 deck to boot)..I don't know if they are any better...although I'm not having as many dropouts as with the sony's..(but that could have been the gl2)...The panasonic tape "case" is nicer...rubberized with a neat pop open top...I don't know if this is a reason to switch. Panasonic recommends running a cleaning tape whenever changing tape brands...I'd probably stick with that advice. Barry

September 19th, 2003, 01:01 AM	#4
Desi Tury New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: hermosa berch calif Posts: 18	if i only have 24hours of time on mt cam but want to swich tapes should i use the cleaning tape first? or not worry about it.... under (other functions) my (hour meter) reads ooo26.... what do you think? ps anything wrong with the panasonic ME dvm60 tapes? if so what?

September 19th, 2003, 11:53 AM	#6
Desi Tury New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: hermosa berch calif Posts: 18	I have DVX100 should i use the cleaning tape if i'm going from sony to panasonic? Even if i only have about 11 hours rec time and 10 hours playing time on the cam? Becouse they say, it is not good to use the cleaning tape unless you have have to ? thank you........

September 19th, 2003, 03:02 PM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Here is some reading: http://www.dvfreak.com/tape.htm

September 19th, 2003, 03:18 PM	#8
Desi Tury New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: hermosa berch calif Posts: 18	Frank .... Would you, or would you not use the cleaning tape with this new of a cam?.. Or dose the rule (if it's not broke, don't fix it) apply here? thank you......

September 19th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#9
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I would not clean the heads unless they needed cleaning, or needed cleaning because I'm switching tape brands/types---which I don't---so I've never needed to clean my heads while using Fuji. Years ago, when I wasn't using Fuji, head cleaning went hand in hand with shooting and playing back the footage. (I don't have this probelm now---thanks, Fuji!) :-)

September 20th, 2003, 05:50 PM	#10
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	that link is nice... one of the reasons I use Fuji in my DVX... but careful following the links below that page.. some of the information on those linked pages is totally false.

September 20th, 2003, 07:21 PM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I agree. But I tried to find as many tape related links as I could, and put them in there. About 5 years ago I found a fantastic link but it seemed to have disappeared a few years back. It was an extensive test on tapes, done by a guy for his masters or PHD or something like that. From what I recall, Fuji came out on top, with Pana right behind, but I can't recall which Pana tape that was. Sony didn't fair well at all in that test, though I'm sure its improved over the years. Who knows!

September 20th, 2003, 07:29 PM	#12
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	yeah it was pretty solid info mostly, just the one page that thought all the tapes where dry lube was a little commical. I guess it is a little confusing.