24p questions

[Stephen van Vuuren]

Stuart:

Thanks. I'm downloading them right now.

[Stephen van Vuuren]

I got one file (shortflight.mov) very slowly, other's barfed and now page is unavailable?

[Adrian van der Park]

holy smokes that's a slammed server this morning. slo downloads.

guess I'm not the only one downloading them.

anybody have them up on a different server?

[Jenn Kramer]

I've moved them over to a thttpd based server, since the uploads started using all the capacity on my ISPs 5 T1's (and so, obviously, they decided to unplug the machine and give me a call). The files should be available again, it'll just be slower to limit the damage.

[Stephen van Vuuren]

Thanks for the update. I've started again, but slower is the right word. I'm getting around 2K per sec.

Should be able to look at them tomorrow :)

So with 30p you get better resolution even when playing back in NTSC (as 60i)?

[Jenn Kramer]

Small update, some people trying to access these files are using 'download managers' that pound the server with 10 or more simultaneous connections at once for the same file, in effect pushing their way to the front of the line, but they also make the server very unhappy, so the whole thing slows down for everybody. It was effecting other web sites on the machine, as well as dvinfo.net, (3 second ping times) so I moved them to another server. If a little time goes by and it isn't pounding the server as much, I'll up the bandwidth limits a bit.

As an aside, if anyone knows anybody at a place like Hurricane Electric or Exodus or Akamai, drop me or Chris a line. I'd like people to be able to download these files as fast as possible, but my current colocation environment just doesn't allow for blowing out so much traffic at once. Thanks!

[Stephen van Vuuren]

Good. My attempts failed so far, so I gave up an hour ago, but I just tried again and first clip is coming down at 30K per second.

[Chris Hurd]

Howdy from Texas,

Jenn Kramer wrote...

<< As an aside, if anyone knows anybody at a place like Hurricane Electric or Exodus or Akamai, drop me or Chris a line. >>

There's a budget available for this, by the way. We're not looking for any handouts or freebies, just an appropriate solution that will ease the situation for everybody.

[Adam Lawrence]

incase anyone is still having trouble..i posted the clip with the seagul
in flight...its 17mgs but this server maybe be better.

http://www.eatdrinkmedia.com/temp/clips.html
(right click on the link to download)

-Adam

[Chris Hurd]

For anyone who has downloaded all of these clips, I could use a favor if you please. I'm looking for some thumbnail images of them. Just a 320x240 jpeg of the first frame of each clip would suffice. If someone out there could do this and e-mail 'em to me, I'd be most grateful. Thanks in advance,

[Stephen van Vuuren]

I've got my camera here and will work on some new clips this weekend :)

[Ryan Wachter]

Totally new to the DV scene....and filmmaking in general actually.
I know that 24p is good, and very close to the look of film.Lucas used it and said hes not going back. The new panasonic comes with it...What my question is, whats the p in 24p stand for? Whats it do?
Thanks
Ryan

[Jacques Mersereau]

The P in 24P stands for progressive.
So, like film, this flavor of HD video signal contains 24 whole frames per second.

NTSC video is 30 *interlaced*
(2 fields per frame) frames per second. 480i.

That MTV awards show looked killer imo.
That said, I think Panasonic has it right.
60 FPS capture!

[Barry Goyette]

Ryan

The p in 24p stands for progressive (scan). It is one of a variety of frame rate "formats" that are available for digital video...60i is the most common in the US, and is the standard for NTSC video. The i stands for interlaced, which means that 60i uses 60 interlaced scans (or fields)per second...interlacing is a process where odd and even scan lines are captured and rendered on successive frames, and is largely responsible for the look that most of us associate with video. 24p refers to 24 progressive scans per second. A Progressive scan is single frame that includes both odd and even scan lines, and thus it is similar to how a film camera records its imagery. The 24 fps framerate is the same as that used worldwide for theatrical films, thus the 24p format is considered to be the best match for digital production of theatrical content.

One confusing aspect is that you will find references to 480p, 1080i and others. In these cases p and i stand for the same things...but the number is referring to resolution instead of framerate.

The panasonic ag-dvx100 is capable of recording in 60i, 30p, and 24p---making it unique (for the moment) in consumer level video cameras.

Barry