New AG-DVX100A announced - please post all threads here - frame grabs available

Brian Gauthier · November 16th, 2003, 08:30 PM

go to
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
and type in the web site...

Goat

Jeff Donald · November 16th, 2003, 08:31 PM

Frank posted the same link several weeks ago. I think it is a camera fan site. Speculation is that it is a wish list for features. I don't know if Frank got it translated or not.

Chris Sorensen · November 16th, 2003, 08:41 PM

It's not a fan site. Check out betterwhois.com and you'll see that panasonic.biz is registered to matsushita.

Also, you can get the brochure at:

http://panasonic.biz/sav/camera/ag-d...AG-DVX100A.pdf

The original link translated:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...g-dvx100a.html

Stephen van Vuuren · November 16th, 2003, 08:45 PM

Can anyone (Chris?) get info if/when this model is coming to the US?

panosonic.biz is legit though the Babelfish is fun:

Panasonic.biz, to the business user way of government and municipal offices self-governing community & public works projects body enterprise various corporate bodies, is the home page which offers the commodity for business and the various colorful items of information regarding the solution comprehensively.

Because the highest of the customer growth development of the business of satisfaction and 21st century type is actualized, the ¡which hard and software are superior, collects knowledge and the intelligence which are stored so far, starts us answering by comprehensive power

:)

Frank Granovski · November 16th, 2003, 08:48 PM

I never translated it. I'd have to go to a high speed connection with newer hard/soft-ware. I've checked with other sites geared with new cam announcements---nada, not a thing. However, the first link on this thread was from the south pacific region, so I suspected the "A" stands for Aussie model (and that region). Pana AU doesn't even market the DVX100 Down-Under. Another company brings them in. I don't know why.

Jeff Donald · November 16th, 2003, 08:50 PM

At a recent trade show, no one in Panasonic USA was acknowledging its existence. The Expandore site says available end of January 2004.

Robert Mann Z. · November 16th, 2003, 08:50 PM

A stands for advanced:

some new features

Furthermore the picture quality function which evolved -
Building in the improvement and high-level image adjustment function of color reproducibility
- With the optimization of color separation optical system, furthermore a more faithful color reproducibility than past.
- New mode "ENRICHED" (richer color) the matrix setting which is added.
- V detail (contour revision of vertical direction) level, H/V detail balance and detail coring (noise removal of detail) adjustment is possible.
- Knee (compression of brightness) point setting (AUTO/LOW/MID/HIGH).

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Furthermore it is easy to use -
Photographing function with 24P/30P mode is complete
With AG-DVX100A, we have added the photographing performance with the 24P/30P mode whosedemand is high from the past, to be easier to use it evolves.
- Focusing assist function*.
- Gain rise (maximum + 12dB) is possible.
- Indication and output of the color bar are possible.
* Automatic focusing operates, but somewhat from at the time of 60i mode time is required for the focusing setting.

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Complacent activity
As a camera for business, furthermore the operativity mobility reliability which is brushed up.

Wide edge f=4.5mm -
The professional specification which thought of reporting collection of data interior recording
For broadcast the zoom lens which covers the angle of view of the wide edge whose use frequency is high with the one for business. As for the wide edge f=4.5mm (with 35mm conversion 32.5mm). You can obtain the angle of view which is sufficient for recording and recording of the narrow interior or combines interview one-man recording which are approached to the collection of data object. Because installing the wide converter lens becomes unnecessary with most uses, original mobility can be shown sufficiently. In addition MOD of the TELE edge (most near focal length) approximately 0.6m, mobility of the handy camera can be shown freely.

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Cam type manual zoom -
Furthermore it got near to the interchangeable lens to the operation impression
The cam system which can do interchangeable lens similar zooming for business (mechanical operation) the manual zoom ring. Direct with operation, delicate zoom operation is possible quickly. With AG-DVX100A furthermore it evolves into the touch where the operation impression of the zoom ring had the stickiness. Servo (electromotion) it equips also zoom of course. As for speed of servo zoom the slow zoom which former approximately 1.5 times will be slow has become possible.

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Manual/automatic focusing -
Supporting fast operation under all circumstances
Quick focusing is possible under all circumstances. At the time of MANUAL mode manual focusing by the focusing ring. Also this operation impression with AG-DVX100A evolves into the touch which has the stickiness. With AUTO mode automatic focusing of high speed works, participates to emergency and the high/low angle time. XXINF Position resets focal length to infinity and supporting manual focusing operation. As for the PUSH AUTO button the focus adjusting which is fast by being able to use automatic focusing temporarily at the time of manual mode as an assistance of manual focusing is actualized.

Peter Jefferson · November 17th, 2003, 06:15 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : I never translated it. I'd have to go to a high speed connection with newer hard/soft-ware. I've checked with other sites geared with new cam announcements---nada, not a thing. However, the first link on this thread was from the south pacific region, so I suspected the "A" stands for Aussie model (and that region). Pana AU doesn't even market the DVX100 Down-Under. Another company brings them in. I don't know why. -->>>

hey frank, the "Pro" Pana gear is supplied by rexel who are absolutely useless and charge and arm and a leg for the most basic of items.

Im using the aussie version 50i/25p dvx and i honestly dont see them bringin out another version considering the existing one retails for $8800 and has only been on the market since March this year... going any higher and your lookin at grey market Import Beta SP prices, which most people would go for considering the proximity of the asian market to us.

I can fly to asia from here, buy a DVC200 and have a good time and be left with change for less than 10 grand, which, when you consider the price of this "advanced" dvx would most likely fetch...

in the end, SoftWare is SW and to have to purchase a whole new unit to benefit from the features of the updated SW would HAVE TO BE the dumbest thing Pana could consider...

theyd be pissing off ALOT of users..

Im happy to pay $250USD for an update for my cameras software, im not happy to pay 4grand USD for a new unit which IS benefcial, but not crucial to my daily runnings....

only time and Pana will tell...
On a side not, sticking to the topic, this all seems to be Software related, and in all honesty, i dont see

Frank Granovski · November 17th, 2003, 06:24 AM

Quote:

hey frank, the "Pro" Pana gear is supplied by rexel who are absolutely useless and charge and arm and a leg for the most basic of items.

Yeah, that's the name I was given by Pana AU. I was very surprised. That's crazy about the DVC200 only costing pennies more than the DVX100 with built-in airfare.

David Ziegelheim · November 17th, 2003, 12:31 PM

The big news is the 12-bit ADC. That is what makes the knee control (auto and three manual settings) and other stuff possible.

New gammas, slow shutters, the rest of the progressive software (auto focus (called focus assist because of its slow speed), gain, and color bars), improved feel on the lens rings, slower servo zoom, compressed 16:9.

This is a very complete job on the electronics. Missing were upgrades to the video. Native 16:9 CCD. A more reasonable lens --smaller OD, longer zoom (1/2" and 2/3") lens equivalents (around 7mm) have 16x to 23x zooms. The really wide ones (5mm and less) only go 10-12x zoom. However they are 15mm equivalents at 35mm. And include a built-in doubler.

Stuart Kupinsky · November 17th, 2003, 02:36 PM

Any ideas on the description of some 3rd option on 16:9? It seems to indicate that there is (1) using the specialize lens, (2) regular letterbox, and then (3) something having to do with the progressive scan reducing the resolution loss associated with letterbox mode.

Barry Green · November 17th, 2003, 04:22 PM

The three options they are describing are:

4:3 with letterbox (as in current camera)
16:9 with anamorphic adapter (as in current camera)
16:9 using internal squeeze mode (new to the updated camera)

Stephen van Vuuren · November 17th, 2003, 04:27 PM

I'm thinking the chances of an upgrade kit are slim, given the new 12-bit DSP.

It will be interesting to see how much difference in quality the cams will capture.

Christopher Go · November 17th, 2003, 07:03 PM

Panasonic English language info:

http://panasonic.co.jp/bsd/sales_o/0...g-dvx100a.html

Stephen van Vuuren · November 17th, 2003, 07:22 PM

Ouch!!!

Thanks for the link. I may just sell my barely used unit if this is going to be available soon.

It pretty much is a complete wish list except for true 16:9 and long telephoto.

November 16th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#16
Brian Gauthier Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: honolulu, hi Posts: 54	Translate go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and type in the web site... Goat

November 16th, 2003, 08:31 PM	#17
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Frank posted the same link several weeks ago. I think it is a camera fan site. Speculation is that it is a wish list for features. I don't know if Frank got it translated or not. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 16th, 2003, 08:45 PM	#19
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Can anyone (Chris?) get info if/when this model is coming to the US? panosonic.biz is legit though the Babelfish is fun: Panasonic.biz, to the business user way of government and municipal offices self-governing community & public works projects body enterprise various corporate bodies, is the home page which offers the commodity for business and the various colorful items of information regarding the solution comprehensively. Because the highest of the customer growth development of the business of satisfaction and 21st century type is actualized, the ¡which hard and software are superior, collects knowledge and the intelligence which are stored so far, starts us answering by comprehensive power :) __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

November 16th, 2003, 08:50 PM	#21
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	At a recent trade show, no one in Panasonic USA was acknowledging its existence. The Expandore site says available end of January 2004. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 17th, 2003, 02:36 PM	#26
Stuart Kupinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 82	Any ideas on the description of some 3rd option on 16:9? It seems to indicate that there is (1) using the specialize lens, (2) regular letterbox, and then (3) something having to do with the progressive scan reducing the resolution loss associated with letterbox mode. __________________ DVX100A/AT4071a/Vegas/After Effects Dual 2GHz Xeon PC

November 16th, 2003, 08:41 PM	#18
Chris Sorensen Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 61	It's not a fan site. Check out betterwhois.com and you'll see that panasonic.biz is registered to matsushita. Also, you can get the brochure at: http://panasonic.biz/sav/camera/ag-d...AG-DVX100A.pdf The original link translated: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...g-dvx100a.html

November 16th, 2003, 08:48 PM	#20
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I never translated it. I'd have to go to a high speed connection with newer hard/soft-ware. I've checked with other sites geared with new cam announcements---nada, not a thing. However, the first link on this thread was from the south pacific region, so I suspected the "A" stands for Aussie model (and that region). Pana AU doesn't even market the DVX100 Down-Under. Another company brings them in. I don't know why.

November 16th, 2003, 08:50 PM	#22
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	A stands for advanced: some new features Furthermore the picture quality function which evolved - Building in the improvement and high-level image adjustment function of color reproducibility - With the optimization of color separation optical system, furthermore a more faithful color reproducibility than past. - New mode "ENRICHED" (richer color) the matrix setting which is added. - V detail (contour revision of vertical direction) level, H/V detail balance and detail coring (noise removal of detail) adjustment is possible. - Knee (compression of brightness) point setting (AUTO/LOW/MID/HIGH). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Furthermore it is easy to use - Photographing function with 24P/30P mode is complete With AG-DVX100A, we have added the photographing performance with the 24P/30P mode whosedemand is high from the past, to be easier to use it evolves. - Focusing assist function. - Gain rise (maximum + 12dB) is possible. - Indication and output of the color bar are possible. Automatic focusing operates, but somewhat from at the time of 60i mode time is required for the focusing setting. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Complacent activity As a camera for business, furthermore the operativity mobility reliability which is brushed up. Wide edge f=4.5mm - The professional specification which thought of reporting collection of data interior recording For broadcast the zoom lens which covers the angle of view of the wide edge whose use frequency is high with the one for business. As for the wide edge f=4.5mm (with 35mm conversion 32.5mm). You can obtain the angle of view which is sufficient for recording and recording of the narrow interior or combines interview one-man recording which are approached to the collection of data object. Because installing the wide converter lens becomes unnecessary with most uses, original mobility can be shown sufficiently. In addition MOD of the TELE edge (most near focal length) approximately 0.6m, mobility of the handy camera can be shown freely. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cam type manual zoom - Furthermore it got near to the interchangeable lens to the operation impression The cam system which can do interchangeable lens similar zooming for business (mechanical operation) the manual zoom ring. Direct with operation, delicate zoom operation is possible quickly. With AG-DVX100A furthermore it evolves into the touch where the operation impression of the zoom ring had the stickiness. Servo (electromotion) it equips also zoom of course. As for speed of servo zoom the slow zoom which former approximately 1.5 times will be slow has become possible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manual/automatic focusing - Supporting fast operation under all circumstances Quick focusing is possible under all circumstances. At the time of MANUAL mode manual focusing by the focusing ring. Also this operation impression with AG-DVX100A evolves into the touch which has the stickiness. With AUTO mode automatic focusing of high speed works, participates to emergency and the high/low angle time. XXINF Position resets focal length to infinity and supporting manual focusing operation. As for the PUSH AUTO button the focus adjusting which is fast by being able to use automatic focusing temporarily at the time of manual mode as an assistance of manual focusing is actualized.

November 17th, 2003, 06:15 AM	#23
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	<<<-- Originally posted by Frank Granovski : I never translated it. I'd have to go to a high speed connection with newer hard/soft-ware. I've checked with other sites geared with new cam announcements---nada, not a thing. However, the first link on this thread was from the south pacific region, so I suspected the "A" stands for Aussie model (and that region). Pana AU doesn't even market the DVX100 Down-Under. Another company brings them in. I don't know why. -->>> hey frank, the "Pro" Pana gear is supplied by rexel who are absolutely useless and charge and arm and a leg for the most basic of items. Im using the aussie version 50i/25p dvx and i honestly dont see them bringin out another version considering the existing one retails for $8800 and has only been on the market since March this year... going any higher and your lookin at grey market Import Beta SP prices, which most people would go for considering the proximity of the asian market to us. I can fly to asia from here, buy a DVC200 and have a good time and be left with change for less than 10 grand, which, when you consider the price of this "advanced" dvx would most likely fetch... in the end, SoftWare is SW and to have to purchase a whole new unit to benefit from the features of the updated SW would HAVE TO BE the dumbest thing Pana could consider... theyd be pissing off ALOT of users.. Im happy to pay $250USD for an update for my cameras software, im not happy to pay 4grand USD for a new unit which IS benefcial, but not crucial to my daily runnings.... only time and Pana will tell... On a side not, sticking to the topic, this all seems to be Software related, and in all honesty, i dont see

November 17th, 2003, 12:31 PM	#25
David Ziegelheim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warren, NJ Posts: 398	The big news is the 12-bit ADC. That is what makes the knee control (auto and three manual settings) and other stuff possible. New gammas, slow shutters, the rest of the progressive software (auto focus (called focus assist because of its slow speed), gain, and color bars), improved feel on the lens rings, slower servo zoom, compressed 16:9. This is a very complete job on the electronics. Missing were upgrades to the video. Native 16:9 CCD. A more reasonable lens --smaller OD, longer zoom (1/2" and 2/3") lens equivalents (around 7mm) have 16x to 23x zooms. The really wide ones (5mm and less) only go 10-12x zoom. However they are 15mm equivalents at 35mm. And include a built-in doubler.

November 17th, 2003, 04:22 PM	#27
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	The three options they are describing are: 4:3 with letterbox (as in current camera) 16:9 with anamorphic adapter (as in current camera) 16:9 using internal squeeze mode (new to the updated camera)

November 17th, 2003, 04:27 PM	#28
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	I'm thinking the chances of an upgrade kit are slim, given the new 12-bit DSP. It will be interesting to see how much difference in quality the cams will capture. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

November 17th, 2003, 07:03 PM	#29
Christopher Go Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 429	Panasonic English language info: http://panasonic.co.jp/bsd/sales_o/0...g-dvx100a.html

November 17th, 2003, 07:22 PM	#30
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Ouch!!! Thanks for the link. I may just sell my barely used unit if this is going to be available soon. It pretty much is a complete wish list except for true 16:9 and long telephoto. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com