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Old February 29th, 2004, 12:10 AM   #1
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Lotr film stock

Has anyone ever ajusted the settings so the DVx100 lookes like the same film stock used in the Lord of the Rings. If so can you post a frame grab?
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Old February 29th, 2004, 12:19 AM   #2
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I've only seen brief clips of these films. But from what I've seen I would say that such color adjustments are done during some stage of post-production, not in a camera. I would also say that the DVX100's image adjustments are not really capable of those "looks".

The SDX900, the DVX100's big brother, is capable of approximating such in-camera color adjustments. I've seen it demonstrated. But it has a broader latitude and different color space than the DVX100.

But even so, it would be far more practical from a control and consistency perspective to do this in post.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 12:23 AM   #3
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LOTR had up to 9 unit of photography working at one time. The effects you are referring to are a combination of stock, lighting filters, lenses and extensive digital intermediate posting.

See American Cinematographer Archives for details.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 08:51 AM   #4
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iirc, those nine units were not working at the same location at the same time.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 10:13 AM   #5
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No, obviously not. Peter Jackson had a remote uplink switching system where he could see everything each unit was shooting. I think there were pics of it in the AC article.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 03:15 PM   #6
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The filmstock in Lord of the Rings seems brighter than other filmstocks there are a lot of highlights in daylight.

For exampe:

http://www.subreality.com/eomer/gallery/aragorn-03.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/Aragorn%20y%20Brego.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/AragornTTT.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/Faramir3.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/Eowyn%20Edoras.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/Sam%20y%20Frodo.jpg
http://www.laurelindorenan.com/Sam%20y%20FrodoTTT.jpg

Perhaps I'm not describing it correctly by saying there are a lot of highlights but it does seem to be brighter then other fillmstocks in natural light. I want to know if you can emmulate that look with the DVX100a.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 03:23 PM   #7
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You would have to do this in post as I think the lightness/glows in your highlight was probably done in post in LOTR as well. You can get a cheesy version of it with diffusion and other filters, but those often flatten contrast and don't retain the detail in the DV codec.

I would shoot cinegamma/cinematrix/fine detail, make VERY sure not to clip highlights at all, even to the point of underexposing by a 1 stop or so.

Then in post you want to retrieve detail from shadows (via gamma/levels/curves) without affect midtones. Then slightly blow out highlight and add subtle glow filter that allow you to adjuts parameters.

They key is this takes a lot of carefully shot footage since DV lacks the latitue of film and carefully done CC in post (preferably After Effect working in a 16 bit project.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 03:28 PM   #8
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See the articles here: http://www.theasc.com/magazine/index.htm
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Old March 9th, 2004, 04:52 AM   #9
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