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Old September 19th, 2004, 07:24 AM   #1
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really really wired !!!!

below is an email I just send to panasonic canada, have a read:

I was reading the brochure of DVX 100A and DVC30 , and find something quite interesting, wondering if u could tell me why, in the brochure of 100A, Page 4, it says 100A has 4 different cine-like tones, and for DVC30, page 4 as well, it says, it has Movie simulation, and use the same GAMA processor that 100A uses, ok, here comes the question, look at the graph that been used to indicate the different lines of output, u may have seen the problem now, same cine-like curve was different in two graphs(green in 30's graph, blue in the other one), and I'm positive that they used the same standards, because the "normal" curve is exactly the same, and quite coincidentally, the blue line in 100A is the actual same curve in 30's graphy, however, it was marked as cine-like D, which I understand is differ from cine-like.

Hope to hear from u soon!:>
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and u can downoad the borchure here,for 100A
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...E%20Camcorders

for DVC30
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...Model=AG-DVC30
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Old September 19th, 2004, 09:22 PM   #2
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Please phrase your question.
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Old September 19th, 2004, 11:42 PM   #3
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My question in the the email I pasted in my post, read it again please.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 06:42 AM   #4
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I agree with Yang there is no real question in there. You state
some things are "wrong" in your view, but you don't say what
exactly is wrong or why you think this is wrong or what the
exact problem is.

I'm "thinking" you have problem that the two curves are not
the same or their name is different. Well a cine mode on one
camera does not need to have the same curve on the other
camera even if it is from the same manufacturer. Nor do they
have to name it the same. It is a different product and therefore
it might have different names and/or operating modes. Even
if it has the same chip.

Anyway, when sending an e-mail to company or here on a board
it is good to describe in clear words what your question is which
you don't do. So I'm not sure Panasonic "understands" your
"question" either. And proper language will probably help as
well (like "you" instead of "u") when talking to a company.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 07:30 PM   #5
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The question is why do they use different curves to indicate same cine-like gama in the same standard graph?

hope this time some one can understand me. I'm not a big fan of panasonic, nor sony , nor canon or JVC,etc. if u are a big fan of Panasonic, and feel offended by this post , then I apologise ! and maybe next time I'll watch my language while I'm talking to any 'big company'.

Thanks for reply anyways.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 11:39 PM   #6
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no one's offended but it just sounded like you had waay too much caffeine when typing the original post. I read it through twice and still didn't understand what you had said and then was pissed when I realized I had wasted my time doing so.
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Old September 21st, 2004, 05:02 AM   #7
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Thanks for your kindly reply, Yang.
and I think u are really wasting your time here.:>
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Old September 21st, 2004, 07:55 AM   #8
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if i keep reading posts like these then I would agree fully! :)
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Old September 22nd, 2004, 12:22 AM   #9
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Is there any need to be rude to the guy? It's not like he's giving the location of the Grail in ancient Araic. :P

I got the question the first time. Yes, re-read it guys (Here's a hint: ....here comes the question....)

I have no idea why this is (Own the DVX not the DVC30) unfortunately. I looked at it and wonder if its because the 30 is using a Frame mode and the 100A is using Progressive? Anyone?

Why is everyone fixated on the mysterious DA VINCI Code here? Jeez.
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Old September 22nd, 2004, 02:32 AM   #10
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Thank you, John, for actually answering his question. And you're absolutely right, there's no need to be rude to anybody.

There's a big difference, in how different people say different things differently. If you don't get the gist of it, then please just move along. Gracias all,
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Old October 1st, 2004, 06:51 PM   #11
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I just got the reply form Panasonic , and Thanks for John and Chris and also thanks for Yang and Rob's participation, here's the reply from Panasonic, I think we'll all understand why now,


The curves are different. The DVX100 has the 4 different curves for
Cinemalike gamma
The DVC30 has only one which is similar to the DVC100 Cine-Like D even though
in the dvc30 it is called cine-like (without the D)

For best quality of video to look like film in the DV format please choose
the DVX100 camera with cinelike curve

Hope this helps

David Craig
Product Manager
Panasonic Canada Inc.
905 238-2269
dcraig@ca.panasonic.com
http://home.cogeco.ca/~dcraig/PCI/
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