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Wayne Starick · January 22nd, 2005, 02:05 AM

I have been asked to deliver a finished DVD (I use Sony DVD Architect) in widescreen format. Has anyone compared the results of these two settings on the DVC30?

Also what should I expect if the result of both is shown on a normal 4:3 screen?

I don't have access to a widescreen TV, so I can't check for myself.

Tommy Haupfear · January 22nd, 2005, 10:38 AM

Wayne, if you shoot your footage in letterbox then you're recording black bars to tape and your footage is still 4:3. If you record in the anamorphic squeeze mode then your footage could look incorrect (squished) on certain 4:3 TVs. If you are 100% certain your footage is to only be viewed on widescreen TVs then I would go for the squeeze mode, otherwise stick with letterbox.

This link might be of some help. Note that it is regarding NTSC, not PAL.

Click here

Guy Bruner · January 22nd, 2005, 02:17 PM

If you shoot in widescreen (anamorphic 16:9) and author your DVD in widescreen, the DVD player will letterbox the video on 4:3 sets and play it full screen on widescreen sets. Keep in mind that the widescreen video on the DVC30 is low rez compared to a cam like the Sony PDX10, Panasonic GS400 or Canon XL2. So, I'd take a look at it on a widescreen set before I gave it to my client even if I had to take it to a local electronics store.

Leigh Wanstead · January 22nd, 2005, 04:13 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Guy Bruner : Keep in mind that the widescreen video on the DVC30 is low rez compared to a cam like the Sony PDX10, Panasonic GS400 or Canon XL2. -->>>

Hi Guy,

Do you know GS400 has true 16:9 ccd? I checked my gs400 and found that the screen actually get wider while I push wide screen button.

Regards
Leigh

Tommy Haupfear · January 22nd, 2005, 06:19 PM

Good point about the DVD authoring Guy.

Leigh, are you asking if the GS400 has a native 16:9 CCD? The GS400 does have a very high quality 16:9 mode with almost no vertical zooming but the CCD itself is 4:3.

Guy Bruner · January 22nd, 2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Do you know GS400 has true 16:9 ccd? I checked my gs400 and found that the screen actually get wider while I push wide screen button.

Hi Leigh. Like Tommy said, the CCDs on the GS400 are 4:3. However, the 16:9 mode takes a full true 16:9 image from the CCDs to create the widescreen. So, the widescreen image is full resolution and 22% wider than 4:3.

Leigh Wanstead · January 22nd, 2005, 09:31 PM

Thanks Guy and Tommy.

Your answer makes me very happy.

My gy-dv5000 only has letterbox and uneconomic to get an add on converter.

I think I should use my gs400 more instead of gy-dv5000. I just use gs400 to take some photo which is just waste my money now. I actually quite like wide screen + cinema mode in gs400.

Regards
Leigh

Wayne Starick · January 25th, 2005, 08:42 AM

Thanks for all of the helpful input folks. Tommy, that link was really useful - thank you!

Actually I have come up with a neat solution for experimenting - I bought a run-out model of a portable DVD player (Voxson ZK7) for $299 Oz dollars. It is really neat - slightly larger than a DVD case and it comes with remote, plug-on battery, power pack and cigarette lighter adaptor. I can set it to either 4:3 or 16:9 and see exactly what is going on.

I think it might be useful for taking to show clients as well - that's my story and I'm sticking to it anyway! :o)

Check it out at:
http://www.voxson.com/productsServic...DVDPlayers.asp

Chris Hurd · January 25th, 2005, 08:57 PM

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January 22nd, 2005, 02:05 AM	#1
Wayne Starick Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 66	DVC30-Squeeze or Letterbox I have been asked to deliver a finished DVD (I use Sony DVD Architect) in widescreen format. Has anyone compared the results of these two settings on the DVC30? Also what should I expect if the result of both is shown on a normal 4:3 screen? I don't have access to a widescreen TV, so I can't check for myself. __________________ Wayne If there's no Internet in Heaven, I'm not going!

January 25th, 2005, 08:42 AM	#8
Wayne Starick Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 66	Thanks for all of the helpful input folks. Tommy, that link was really useful - thank you! Actually I have come up with a neat solution for experimenting - I bought a run-out model of a portable DVD player (Voxson ZK7) for $299 Oz dollars. It is really neat - slightly larger than a DVD case and it comes with remote, plug-on battery, power pack and cigarette lighter adaptor. I can set it to either 4:3 or 16:9 and see exactly what is going on. I think it might be useful for taking to show clients as well - that's my story and I'm sticking to it anyway! :o) Check it out at: http://www.voxson.com/productsServic...DVDPlayers.asp __________________ Wayne If there's no Internet in Heaven, I'm not going!

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January 22nd, 2005, 10:38 AM	#2
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Wayne, if you shoot your footage in letterbox then you're recording black bars to tape and your footage is still 4:3. If you record in the anamorphic squeeze mode then your footage could look incorrect (squished) on certain 4:3 TVs. If you are 100% certain your footage is to only be viewed on widescreen TVs then I would go for the squeeze mode, otherwise stick with letterbox. This link might be of some help. Note that it is regarding NTSC, not PAL. Click here

January 22nd, 2005, 02:17 PM	#3
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	If you shoot in widescreen (anamorphic 16:9) and author your DVD in widescreen, the DVD player will letterbox the video on 4:3 sets and play it full screen on widescreen sets. Keep in mind that the widescreen video on the DVC30 is low rez compared to a cam like the Sony PDX10, Panasonic GS400 or Canon XL2. So, I'd take a look at it on a widescreen set before I gave it to my client even if I had to take it to a local electronics store.

January 22nd, 2005, 04:13 PM	#4
Leigh Wanstead Trustee Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NZ Posts: 1,276	<<<-- Originally posted by Guy Bruner : Keep in mind that the widescreen video on the DVC30 is low rez compared to a cam like the Sony PDX10, Panasonic GS400 or Canon XL2. -->>> Hi Guy, Do you know GS400 has true 16:9 ccd? I checked my gs400 and found that the screen actually get wider while I push wide screen button. Regards Leigh

January 22nd, 2005, 06:19 PM	#5
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Good point about the DVD authoring Guy. Leigh, are you asking if the GS400 has a native 16:9 CCD? The GS400 does have a very high quality 16:9 mode with almost no vertical zooming but the CCD itself is 4:3.

January 22nd, 2005, 09:31 PM	#7
Leigh Wanstead Trustee Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NZ Posts: 1,276	Thanks Guy and Tommy. Your answer makes me very happy. My gy-dv5000 only has letterbox and uneconomic to get an add on converter. I think I should use my gs400 more instead of gy-dv5000. I just use gs400 to take some photo which is just waste my money now. I actually quite like wide screen + cinema mode in gs400. Regards Leigh