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Old October 24th, 2014, 04:47 AM   #31
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the Manual is out of the box.... 180 pages ... all languages

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Old October 25th, 2014, 02:58 PM   #32
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German magazine camgaroo.com reviewed the X1000 recently and provided a bunch of untouched sample stills.
Panasonic HC-X1000 ? der 4K Camcorder im Test

they look horrible. Like a bad 720p upscale imo. Here are the stills
http://www.camgaroo.com/fileadmin/ko...000_Stills.zip
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Old November 7th, 2014, 12:33 PM   #33
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Barry Green is here in an hour to give a seminar on the camera.....I'll post the highlights later....

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Old November 9th, 2014, 08:48 AM   #34
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Waiting for that Update :D
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Old December 18th, 2014, 03:57 PM   #35
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I actually finally got to try out the camera today at a store. They allowed me to take it outside the store for to take a sample clip that you see here.

It was originally shot in 2160p60 but unfortunately when you upload that file, YouTube will not make a 4K version unless you upload a 2160p24/30 file instead. When I did an experiment with a 2160p60p file in the past, YouTube would make a 720p60 file, 1080p60 file and 2160p30 file. As mentioned, they don't convert to 4K anymore. The link to the Vimeo version is in the description area of the YouTube video. It's currently being converted. If you'd like to download the file, check out the Vimeo one.

Other settings were a shutter of 60, Aperture set to automatic, white balance set to automatic and ND set to 1/4.

For sure if I had the camera even longer, I'd be able to get better samples. I could have locked the aperture but I sort of wanted to see how it would handle while on auto.

Anyway, it seams like the audio might have been set incorrectly. I didn't mess with any audio settings.


Their was a firmware update that got released last month that people claimed have fixed a flickering problem with 24p.
http://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/.../x1000_na.html
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Old December 18th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #36
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Thanks!!

To be honest the downsampled 1080p youtube clip looks really washed out and not sharp at all, especially around the corners. I've seen footage from regular 1080p cameras that looked sharper.

Could you please upload the original file?

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Old December 18th, 2014, 04:39 PM   #37
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I put the link to the Vimeo version in the description area of the YouTube video.
I'll put it here as well.

Make sure you're signed into Vimeo.
vimeo.com/114920817
Choose Original.
The file is nearly 1GB.
Fresh off the memory card.

To be fair, who knows if their was anything that wasn't set right. I didn't mess with the picture profiles eighter.

I used a 32GB SDHC Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s card.
I think the camera tried to say that the card isn't compatible but as you can see, I was still able to record something.

It's a big camcorder just like the AC90 that I own but for it's size, the ergonomics seamed fine. It actually seamed lighter than I had imagined. I really must be used to shooting with the AC90 to be saying that. The X1000 is sort of like a 4K version of it.

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Just thought of something important. Unlike my AC90 in which gain is engaged if you keep spinning the wheel after f/1.5, their is a separate gain selector on the X1000. It wouldn't surprise me if the gain might have been engaged. I'll probably go to that store again and check the setting on the camera.

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Old December 19th, 2014, 07:38 AM   #38
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Thanks for the file!

I have to say it really does not look good at all. Especially when you zoom towards that green bush the ground barley shows any details. To me it still looks like a bad upscale, especially comapred to the sony fdr-ax100.

I did not notice any rolling shutter which is nice, but the overall image quality and detail, even downscaled to 1080p is very very disappointing.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 05:17 PM   #39
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I went back today to see if the gain was set to anything and it seams like it might have been set to 6db when it should be0. Not easy to test a camera since you don't get much time to see where everything is at and see if anyone messed with the profiles, to fix it. Would be nice if I had enough time with it. It'd be able to properly test it against the AC90 with optimum settings on each camera in both indoor and outdoor shots. Then post my results online for everybody to see.

Here's a review video I found on Vimeo that someone did. He also compared it to the AC90.

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Old December 20th, 2014, 08:13 PM   #40
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I've yet to see anything impressive coming out of this camera.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #41
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This video was shot in 4k on the HC-X1000 and loaded into YouTube in 4k. Use the gear in the bottom right hand corner to go to 2160. If you have a 4k monitor connected to your computer. Or a 5k iMac...

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Old December 20th, 2014, 09:04 PM   #42
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I don't know Phil. I just watched this in 4K on my 4K monitor and I just shake my head. Lots of mud in anything with fine detail. Zooming shots were almost unwatchable as things turned muddy.

I don't know how much of this is due to YouTube encoding, but I've seen other 4K cams that look far better than this on YouTube.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #43
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I think we need people to do more tests. For example play around more with the settings and compare the different formats like testing the sharpness between 2160p24 and 2160p60. Who knows, maybe the resolution is lowered for 2160p60.

What we do know is that their was issues with 24p and people claimed that it got fixed with the newest firmware update. Who knows what else it could have fixed. Their might not have been enough testings when they released the camera. At least we're not seeing those interlacing lines that were in the advertising videos.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 11:34 AM   #44
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Since it's difficult to get 4K raw footage from the internet due to file size, I think it might be a better idea to rely on consistent and established reviewers to offer opinions on this camera, rather than the qualities of a youtube encode. To that end, HDWarrior, an accepted reviewer and video professional, has used and reviewed this camera, and offers a very glowing and excited opinion on it. Its posted above thanks to Paulo Teixeira. In fact his latest post calls this camera a game-changer. Maybe not, but I'd at least take a pro's opinion (along with others) over someone's attempt at posting footage on a free site.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 12:27 PM   #45
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Actually the best way, better than reviewers, is to have people upload video to Vimeo. As a subscriber, you are then able to download the native file and see it exactly the same way as if you shot it.

Nothing better.
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