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Old January 5th, 2015, 08:29 AM   #1
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Panasonic HC-VX870 and HC-WX970 at CES2015

There are new point and shoots as well as video cameras from Panasonic for 2015. I am just posting the features of the two highest end camcorders:

HC-VX870
4K Ultra HD Camcorder with Wireless Smartphone Twin Video Capture
4K Video
20x Optical Zoom
Wifi Enabled
Twin Camera Function
HDR Movie Mode

HC-WX970
4K Ultra HD Camcorder with Built-in Twin Video Camera
4K Video
20x Optical Zoom
5 Axis Stabilization
Wifi Enabled
Twin Camera Function
HDR Movie Mode
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Old January 5th, 2015, 02:14 PM   #2
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Old January 5th, 2015, 03:34 PM   #3
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Re: Panasonic HC-VX870 and HC-WX970 at CES2015

Here's the official Panasonic video:


B&H listing:

Panasonic HC-WX970 4K Ultra-HD Camcorder with Twin HC-WX970 B&H
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Old January 6th, 2015, 03:37 AM   #4
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that was an official panasonic video?.....that was appalling!
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Old January 6th, 2015, 07:57 AM   #5
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that was an official panasonic video?.....that was appalling!
Nah. It reaches its target audience: families that want to record videos of their kids, with something better than a smart phone. 4K will future-proof it better than current HD. I liked the dynamic range in the videos. Too bad the cameras don't have an EVF. I do almost all my shooting with an EVF.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 09:22 AM   #6
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Re: Panasonic HC-VX870 and HC-WX970 at CES2015

There are a few other samples out there.
Here's one with the requisite cats, koalas and parrots:


Some weirdness with moving detail (feathers and the bellies of the wrestling lions), but it's YouTube, and I'm not on a 4K monitor.
Any thoughts?

Also, someone pointed out that the mic input is under the flip-out door. Since there's no EVF, does that mean the LCD needs to ALWAYS be on when recording?
(I'd be using this unattended.)
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Old January 6th, 2015, 01:57 PM   #7
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Aside from a little 30p related motion stuff (slightly "jumpy" looking because of the low frame rate) with the parrots, looked pretty decent on my 4K Seiki. Probably a slower shutter speed would have helped there.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #8
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Article on the HC-WX970:

Panasonic Camcorders Flip the Selfie | Videomaker.com
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Old January 9th, 2015, 06:14 AM   #9
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B&H specs on the camera says it has a 460,800 pixel count LCD. Isn't that low, even for an HD camera?
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Old January 9th, 2015, 06:32 AM   #10
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The image it outputs looks very good though based on these 2 videos.
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Old January 15th, 2015, 10:04 AM   #11
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Has anyone seen any shipping ETAs on the HC-WX970?
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Old February 2nd, 2015, 12:09 PM   #12
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Re: Panasonic HC-VX870 and HC-WX970 at CES2015

Based on all the information available about the X970, it seems like it's not necessarily an upgrade to the X920, since the X920 is not being discontinued by Panasonic, while priced the same as the X970.

The X970 only uses one 1.23" sensor for the 4K, which means the low-light noise level is likely higher than the X920, which has the 3MOS sensor.

4K is not nearly as important to me as having lower noise in low-light shooting, so does that mean I should just keep the X920 I already have?

I called Panasonic and they couldn't tell me I didn't already know, neither could the guys at bhphoto.
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Old February 5th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #13
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Review of HC-WX970

First actual review I've seen...though it's in Russian (linked via Google translate to English):

www.ixbt.com/divideo/panasonic-hc-wx970

Sample footage is linked for download, in various bitrates and resolutions.
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Old February 5th, 2015, 07:20 PM   #14
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Thanks for sharing that review. The automatic translation of Russian is surprisingly coherent.

The color noise of the X970 is definitely higher than the X920, while the luminance noise is similar.
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Old February 5th, 2015, 08:28 PM   #15
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At last, now we know where the SD card goes: in the bottom. Different.
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