Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide.

Noa Put · July 10th, 2018, 03:49 AM

I never shoot in log profiles, I agree with Keith if you don't have enough experience shooting and editing in log it's best to stay clear from it, the standard or natural profile are just fine for most uses.

Adriano Moroni · July 10th, 2018, 04:53 AM

I disagree with you because today I have just tried many tests shooting as "Hybrid Log Gamma" and then applying "Primary Color Corrector" filter as "Natural" profile and then modifying a bit it colours.
These are my testas:
www.dropbox.com/s/mmxb58pm07eudti/1.mp4?dl=0
www.dropbox.com/s/uz9wysqwf40w2jz/2.mp4?dl=0
www.dropbox.com/s/k7albsu3sv4b42v/3.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdys6hkhh42brmh/4.mp4?dl=0

1 and 3 with "Hybrid Log Gamma" and "Primary Color Corretion"
2 and 4 "Natural"

Noa Put · July 10th, 2018, 05:37 AM

I hate to say it but you just proved my point, I only looked at 3 and 4, you turned the sky in .3 into cyan and you blew the highlights but if you are happy with that then who am I to tell you any different.

Adriano Moroni · July 10th, 2018, 06:06 AM

ahaha, you are right. I noticed it. The clip was a bit overexposed. Now I have just modified it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7albsu3sv4b42v/3.mp4?dl=0
The sky was bad but th color of the houses is much closer to reality. Anyway I thanks you for your suggestion. But you can not refute saying that 1 is worse than 2. ;)

Steve Burkett · July 11th, 2018, 07:01 AM

Log is better than other profiles for many scenarios, especially vLog where the colour science is slightly better. It's more forgiving on high contrast scenes, so outdoors, very sunny shots, it shows it's worth. That said, it's easier to screw up in edit and needs practise and understanding and monitoring ideally to bring out it's best. Natural and other camera profiles are safer. Though I've never been happier with them myself and am loving using vLog this year after experimenting with HLG. Thanks to a lot of very talented people, I have a number of LUT to choose from to give my footage a distinctive look. So am experimenting with different looks and styles and grades i never really was able to do before.

Short answer, you want the best footage, shoot log and !earn to grade. If you want an easier life with less risk, choose Natural or any of the other profiles.

July 10th, 2018, 03:49 AM	#31
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide. I never shoot in log profiles, I agree with Keith if you don't have enough experience shooting and editing in log it's best to stay clear from it, the standard or natural profile are just fine for most uses.

July 10th, 2018, 04:53 AM	#32
Adriano Moroni Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rome Italy Posts: 674	Re: Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide. I disagree with you because today I have just tried many tests shooting as "Hybrid Log Gamma" and then applying "Primary Color Corrector" filter as "Natural" profile and then modifying a bit it colours. These are my testas: www.dropbox.com/s/mmxb58pm07eudti/1.mp4?dl=0 www.dropbox.com/s/uz9wysqwf40w2jz/2.mp4?dl=0 www.dropbox.com/s/k7albsu3sv4b42v/3.mp4?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdys6hkhh42brmh/4.mp4?dl=0 1 and 3 with "Hybrid Log Gamma" and "Primary Color Corretion" 2 and 4 "Natural" __________________ A lonesome traveler looking for lost tribes around the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdv...DrZCaaw/videos Last edited by Adriano Moroni; July 10th, 2018 at 06:19 AM.

July 10th, 2018, 05:37 AM	#33
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide. I hate to say it but you just proved my point, I only looked at 3 and 4, you turned the sky in .3 into cyan and you blew the highlights but if you are happy with that then who am I to tell you any different.

July 10th, 2018, 06:06 AM	#34
Adriano Moroni Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rome Italy Posts: 674	Re: Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide. ahaha, you are right. I noticed it. The clip was a bit overexposed. Now I have just modified it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7albsu3sv4b42v/3.mp4?dl=0 The sky was bad but th color of the houses is much closer to reality. Anyway I thanks you for your suggestion. But you can not refute saying that 1 is worse than 2. ;) __________________ A lonesome traveler looking for lost tribes around the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdv...DrZCaaw/videos

July 11th, 2018, 07:01 AM	#35
Steve Burkett Trustee Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Romsey, UK Posts: 1,261	Re: Variable ND Filter Quality? Need help to decide. Log is better than other profiles for many scenarios, especially vLog where the colour science is slightly better. It's more forgiving on high contrast scenes, so outdoors, very sunny shots, it shows it's worth. That said, it's easier to screw up in edit and needs practise and understanding and monitoring ideally to bring out it's best. Natural and other camera profiles are safer. Though I've never been happier with them myself and am loving using vLog this year after experimenting with HLG. Thanks to a lot of very talented people, I have a number of LUT to choose from to give my footage a distinctive look. So am experimenting with different looks and styles and grades i never really was able to do before. Short answer, you want the best footage, shoot log and !earn to grade. If you want an easier life with less risk, choose Natural or any of the other profiles.