HPX-2000 vs. HPX-500

Leonard Levy · August 14th, 2007, 10:48 AM

Thanks guys.
I'll take one of each and a side of fries please.
- Lenny

Robert Lane · August 14th, 2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonard Levy

Thanks guys.
I'll take one of each and a side of fries please.
- Lenny

You want cheese with that? (^_*)

Dan Eschenfelder · August 15th, 2007, 07:46 AM

Thanks Robert, anyone else know about ENG style, non-prime lenses/prices for the 2000?

I'd like to keep this thread alive for any future information comparing the two cameras. Keep 'em coming!

Thanks,
Dan

Robert Lane · August 18th, 2007, 08:21 AM

Dan,

The best thing to do is visit your local rep where you get your video equipment or look at the sponsors list for a shop near you that sells the ENG lenses and have them demo some for you. The larger retailers/distributors will have a good selection to preview and you'll be able to see the differences visually between the high-end HD-spec glass and the less costly ones.

Paulo Teixeira · August 19th, 2007, 04:24 PM

There is a new circuit board coming for the HPX2000 which allows for AVC-Intra recordings. That and the better imagers would make me pick up the HPX2000 over the HPX500.

If money is not an option and you’re willing to wait, than you might as well get the HPX3000, although it’s mostly suitable for 1080 footage. The expected release date is around September to October. If you just want 720p than the HPX2000 is good enough.
By the way, the HPX2000 was picked up by the BBC if it means anything to you.

Dan Eschenfelder · August 22nd, 2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

If you just want 720p than the HPX2000 is good enough.

The 2000 does shoot 1080p. Yes, the switchable Intra recording option is a great plus as well. Though I say budget isn't as huge of a concern, the 3000 is a little bit too much. I don't think I can justify that price compared to the 2000. I'd still like to see some video comparisons and learn more about lenses for the 2000. If anyone can provide that.

Robert Lane · August 23rd, 2007, 08:50 AM

Since the 3000 has not yet been released you won't see any comparo's being done anytime soon and most likely not until sometime next year. But I highly doubt that a direct comparison of this type would ever be done by an individual unless it was sponsored by an outside source. Equipment at this level is too pricey to have on-hand just for testing however as I say, the best way to preview equipment is to visit your local retailer/distributor and, when possible, rent or demo the equipment from that dealer.

Shawn Alyasiri · August 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM

Just food for thought - the 3000 is an interlaced camera 480/1080 - it won't have 720. Looks beautiful - but I'll probably wait for the P2 varicam for the $.

The 2000 provides lovely images - I've been pulling the detail settings down actually (beautiful 720 & 1080) - have 2 of them. 5 card 16 gig load with the new pN firmware is 212 minutes (720 24pN). Otherwise, the FS100 gives you even more (260ish?).

Lenses were mentioned - I have a Canon HJ18x7.8/2x, HJ11x4.7/2x wide and a Fuji XA17/2x - lovely stuff so far. Finally finished with the testing/workflow - rentals and regular capture ongoing frome here.

Hardest thing at first was software downconversion - found that hardware downconversion was the most appealing (ie: AJA/Teranex).

I'm broke, but the quality is there... Looking forward to playing with the Intra codec - seems like things will only get better.

Dan Eschenfelder · August 24th, 2007, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Lane

Since the 3000 has not yet been released you won't see any comparo's being done anytime soon and most likely not until sometime next year. But I highly doubt that a direct comparison of this type would ever be done by an individual unless it was sponsored by an outside source. Equipment at this level is too pricey to have on-hand just for testing however as I say, the best way to preview equipment is to visit your local retailer/distributor and, when possible, rent or demo the equipment from that dealer.

No I meant the 2000 vs. the 500. I'm not interested in teh 3000... too steep.

Robert Lane · August 24th, 2007, 11:36 PM

The easiest way to preview either is to visit any Panny Flagship dealer; most if not all will have both on-hand. Alternatively, you can go to any of the P2 HD road-show locations (there are several more shows scheduled for the remainder of the year) and get some face-time with both the 500 and 2000.

John C. Plunkett · August 28th, 2007, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Lane

The easiest way to preview either is to visit any Panny Flagship dealer; most if not all will have both on-hand. Alternatively, you can go to any of the P2 HD road-show locations (there are several more shows scheduled for the remainder of the year) and get some face-time with both the 500 and 2000.

Robert,
Just wanted to let you know that I attended a P2 HD clinic in St. Louis not too long ago and found your presentation very helpful. You answered all the questions I had about the P2 workflow in a very well thought out presentation.

I recommended to my company that we purchase an HVX200 after that clinic and received it yesterday. It should be a blast once we receive our 16GB p2 card.

August 18th, 2007, 08:21 AM	#19
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Dan, The best thing to do is visit your local rep where you get your video equipment or look at the sponsors list for a shop near you that sells the ENG lenses and have them demo some for you. The larger retailers/distributors will have a good selection to preview and you'll be able to see the differences visually between the high-end HD-spec glass and the less costly ones. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

August 19th, 2007, 04:24 PM	#20
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	There is a new circuit board coming for the HPX2000 which allows for AVC-Intra recordings. That and the better imagers would make me pick up the HPX2000 over the HPX500. If money is not an option and you’re willing to wait, than you might as well get the HPX3000, although it’s mostly suitable for 1080 footage. The expected release date is around September to October. If you just want 720p than the HPX2000 is good enough. By the way, the HPX2000 was picked up by the BBC if it means anything to you. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

August 23rd, 2007, 08:50 AM	#22
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Since the 3000 has not yet been released you won't see any comparo's being done anytime soon and most likely not until sometime next year. But I highly doubt that a direct comparison of this type would ever be done by an individual unless it was sponsored by an outside source. Equipment at this level is too pricey to have on-hand just for testing however as I say, the best way to preview equipment is to visit your local retailer/distributor and, when possible, rent or demo the equipment from that dealer. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

August 24th, 2007, 11:36 PM	#25
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	The easiest way to preview either is to visit any Panny Flagship dealer; most if not all will have both on-hand. Alternatively, you can go to any of the P2 HD road-show locations (there are several more shows scheduled for the remainder of the year) and get some face-time with both the 500 and 2000. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

August 14th, 2007, 10:48 AM	#16
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Thanks guys. I'll take one of each and a side of fries please. - Lenny

August 15th, 2007, 07:46 AM	#18
Dan Eschenfelder New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Thanks Robert, anyone else know about ENG style, non-prime lenses/prices for the 2000? I'd like to keep this thread alive for any future information comparing the two cameras. Keep 'em coming! Thanks, Dan

August 23rd, 2007, 09:03 PM	#23
Shawn Alyasiri Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 256	Just food for thought - the 3000 is an interlaced camera 480/1080 - it won't have 720. Looks beautiful - but I'll probably wait for the P2 varicam for the $. The 2000 provides lovely images - I've been pulling the detail settings down actually (beautiful 720 & 1080) - have 2 of them. 5 card 16 gig load with the new pN firmware is 212 minutes (720 24pN). Otherwise, the FS100 gives you even more (260ish?). Lenses were mentioned - I have a Canon HJ18x7.8/2x, HJ11x4.7/2x wide and a Fuji XA17/2x - lovely stuff so far. Finally finished with the testing/workflow - rentals and regular capture ongoing frome here. Hardest thing at first was software downconversion - found that hardware downconversion was the most appealing (ie: AJA/Teranex). I'm broke, but the quality is there... Looking forward to playing with the Intra codec - seems like things will only get better.