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Old November 18th, 2007, 09:53 AM   #31
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That's incredible.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 09:55 AM   #32
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I concur with TingSern's findings with Neat Video.
A while back, I've praised Neat Video.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 08:49 AM   #33
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I'd love to hear Jan add his two cents to this discussion...
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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:02 AM   #34
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Hmmm,

Jan (and Panasonic) will now take the easy route :-). Buy HVX202 with 1/3" CCD and we throw in Neat Video for free :-). Engineers can sleep a little longer - no need to come out with HVX202A (with 1/2" CCD or bigger). Or even better, incorporate Neat Video's algorithm into one ASIC - and put that chip inside the new revision of HVX202 - so, no need to run software on PC or MAC. Ha ha ha.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:13 AM   #35
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That "alone" is a major issue for a lot of people. Excessive image noise is a big deal, to me at least. If a camera isn't producing the kind of image I expect, it's kind of a deal breaker.
Funny, most of my shoots I use enough light and the "Bpress Gamma" setting and my footage has very little noise.

Does it look like a 2/3" camera? Of course not, but it certainly works.

ANY 1/3" camera will exhibit SOME noise in the darks, its a physical limitation of the chip size.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:13 AM   #36
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I'd love to hear Jan add his two cents to this discussion...

Jan is a woman!!!
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:06 AM   #37
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D'oh!!!! Sorry Jan!
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Old November 21st, 2007, 11:08 AM   #38
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Funny, most of my shoots I use enough light and the "Bpress Gamma" setting and my footage has very little noise.

ANY 1/3" camera will exhibit SOME noise in the darks, its a physical limitation of the chip size.
Obviously. But if I compare it to the Canon XH-A1 or something similar, the HVX200 is much noisier at comparable gain settings. I agree that BPress Gamma does help.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 06:02 AM   #39
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... to the gauntlet that has been thrown down by Sony. They've announced three affordable pro level cameras that use solid state memory, one of them with 1/2" chips. As far as I can tell the only thing Panasonic has been doing lately is concentrating on the low level prosumer stuff. Where's the HVX200a, with improved noise levels and other upgrades? Where's your answer to Sony? Please, give me a reason to stick with P2, even if it's just "we've got some great news that we can't tell you about right now." Please? Because right now I'm close to jumping ship.
From Panasonic, I expect a close to EX type machine with AVC Intra as a recording format. Personally this is what I'm waiting for. Intra will be the bees knees once it gets rolling

Do not ever forget that despite the lack of Panasonic cameras being released, those that ARE released, have almost always been groundbreaking. I don't doubt this next offering will have as much of an impact.

Time will tell.
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