A-Series P2 Cards

Daniel Epstein · June 11th, 2010, 01:58 PM

Tom,
I think your comments about myself and clients and what they want to pay are insulting and uncalled for. I turn down a lot of work which doesn't make sense economically but even in the highest paid work budgets are examined very closely.

Different production scenarios have costs which have to be budgeted and P2 media is not trivial. It is great when you are shooting limited amounts of material. Not so good when shooting long events without breaks and multiple cameras. When comparing media costs and camera costs across platforms there are plenty of reasons to choose systems and Panasonic is not the only game in town and what makes my clients need to use one system over another is a combination of factors in which cost is very important.
New technology is always coming along which changes the equation as to how we do our jobs and not being sensitive to this can put one on the outside looking in as a return on investment. My comment was referring to people using SD media as if it was tape compared to P2 media which has not approached that price level yet.

Cheers

Tom Klein · June 11th, 2010, 04:34 PM

Hello Daniel,

Sorry if my comments offended, that was not my intention, I have seen many industry guys over many years lower to the "clients cost driven demands", and suffer badly because if it, financially and mentally.
That was my point i was trying to make. no offence intended,

Yes, some clients need education and nurturing to get up to speed, in these tough times thats for sure.

Cheers

Steve Childs · June 30th, 2010, 11:53 AM

I've found shooting with P2 cards actually becomes affordable when I rent the cards. I've used a few of the different P2 rental places out there, P2rents.com seems to be the simplest and most affordable.

TingSern Wong · July 2nd, 2010, 10:54 AM

If folks find P2 card costs expensive, why not consider getting a nanoFlash and record it on CF then? Of course, you have to put up with the capital cost of buying a nanoFlash first - which is not cheap. Costs about 2 64GB P2 cards. But, once you clear that, CF card costs are peanuts.

Dale Workman · November 1st, 2010, 10:24 PM

Sorry to bring this forum back up.

So I am just comparing prices of p2 cards - but it seems to me that only the Panasonic p2 cards are on the market still. Is this correct?

I only managed to find a couple fuji cards on the net and am finding it really hard to find any maxells. I am guessing these cards didn't cut it - or couldn't compete with Panasonic's prices?

TingSern Wong · November 1st, 2010, 10:37 PM

In Singapore, there is ONLY Panasonic P2 cards for sale. No Fuji nor Maxell.

June 11th, 2010, 04:34 PM	#17
Tom Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Vic Posts: 160	Hello Daniel, Sorry if my comments offended, that was not my intention, I have seen many industry guys over many years lower to the "clients cost driven demands", and suffer badly because if it, financially and mentally. That was my point i was trying to make. no offence intended, Yes, some clients need education and nurturing to get up to speed, in these tough times thats for sure. Cheers __________________ Tom K www.olinevideo.com.au

June 11th, 2010, 01:58 PM	#16
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Tom, I think your comments about myself and clients and what they want to pay are insulting and uncalled for. I turn down a lot of work which doesn't make sense economically but even in the highest paid work budgets are examined very closely. Different production scenarios have costs which have to be budgeted and P2 media is not trivial. It is great when you are shooting limited amounts of material. Not so good when shooting long events without breaks and multiple cameras. When comparing media costs and camera costs across platforms there are plenty of reasons to choose systems and Panasonic is not the only game in town and what makes my clients need to use one system over another is a combination of factors in which cost is very important. New technology is always coming along which changes the equation as to how we do our jobs and not being sensitive to this can put one on the outside looking in as a return on investment. My comment was referring to people using SD media as if it was tape compared to P2 media which has not approached that price level yet. Cheers

June 30th, 2010, 11:53 AM	#18
Steve Childs New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 13	I've found shooting with P2 cards actually becomes affordable when I rent the cards. I've used a few of the different P2 rental places out there, P2rents.com seems to be the simplest and most affordable.

July 2nd, 2010, 10:54 AM	#19
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	If folks find P2 card costs expensive, why not consider getting a nanoFlash and record it on CF then? Of course, you have to put up with the capital cost of buying a nanoFlash first - which is not cheap. Costs about 2 64GB P2 cards. But, once you clear that, CF card costs are peanuts.

November 1st, 2010, 10:24 PM	#20
Dale Workman Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chatham Ontario Posts: 31	Sorry to bring this forum back up. So I am just comparing prices of p2 cards - but it seems to me that only the Panasonic p2 cards are on the market still. Is this correct? I only managed to find a couple fuji cards on the net and am finding it really hard to find any maxells. I am guessing these cards didn't cut it - or couldn't compete with Panasonic's prices?

November 1st, 2010, 10:37 PM	#21
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	In Singapore, there is ONLY Panasonic P2 cards for sale. No Fuji nor Maxell.