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Casey Krugman February 11th, 2009 03:50 PM

The New Panasonic HPX-300...
 
Here's the Official Press release from Panasonic.

Panasonic USA Pressroom

Jon Fairhurst February 11th, 2009 04:37 PM

$10k+ for a 1/3" camera seems dated.

RED's announcements and the new DV-SLRs have changed expectations.

Zack Birlew February 11th, 2009 04:42 PM

Too late.

Panasonic needed to do this a year or two ago. Now there are so many options it's hard to sift through all the camera choices anymore.

Jack Zhang February 11th, 2009 06:23 PM

CMOS is a huge offset for me, since this would still be impossible to matchmove accurately due to the Rolling Shutter.

Paulo Teixeira February 11th, 2009 06:41 PM

I don’t know about you guys, but a $10,700 camera that records to AVC Intra at 100MBPS seams extremely impressive. I just wish it was as small as Sony’s EX3 and JVC’s HM700 but then again all that horsepower might not have fit.

Here’s a couple of videos:
Abel Cine Tech - Video: A First Look at Panasonic's HPX300

Christian Magnussen February 11th, 2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst (Post 1010484)
$10k+ for a 1/3" camera seems dated.

RED's announcements and the new DV-SLRs have changed expectations.

RED's announcements are more roadmaps, Pana and JVC can deliver their in a few months...

HPX300 looks impressive, the only catch is still the use of 1/3" chips, but again...price must be kept down for both lens and chip.
http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com/c...E_Brochure.pdf

Paulo Teixeira February 11th, 2009 07:31 PM

Cameras usually gets released for much less than the announced price so it’s better to wait until we get prices from places like B&H, etc.

Tim Polster February 11th, 2009 08:04 PM

Interesting that this camera costs the same as the HPX-500.

It will be interesting to see the 1/3" full raster vs. 2/3" pixel shift in terms of image quality.

I will always want the larger chips, but they are pricing them like they are equal.

But I agree, Do we need another 1/3" chip camera?

This camera a year ago would have made much more of a splash.

David Heath February 12th, 2009 04:30 AM

Do we know if that $10,700 includes a lens?

There's quite a lot of good things with this camera, and full marks to Panasonic for the 3 2.2MP chips and shouldermount. I'm also pretty amazed to see true pro features such as proxy abilities to SD card, and integrated radio mic support on a camera in this price range, to say nothing of a few other features.

Personally, I'd like to roll this and an EX3 into one - keep the 1/2" chips and SxS/SDHC media of the EX3, but form factor and other features of this. Either way, it looks as if 2.2MP chips are here to stay.

Christian Magnussen February 12th, 2009 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Polster (Post 1010591)
Interesting that this camera costs the same as the HPX-500.

I can't find any HPX500 with lens that will be under $10k, $18-19k is what HPx500 go for from BHP.

I'll guess around $9k as street price, and i'm suspecting "bundles" either from pana or dealers with two 32gb P2 cards will be about $10k.

Chris Hurd February 12th, 2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Heath (Post 1010711)
Do we know if that $10,700 includes a lens?

Yes, indeed it does include a 17x Fuji HD lens. Frankly I agree with Paulo; the price is amazingly low for an SDI-equipped camera with AVC Intra. And yes it should be clearly understood that this price is far below that of an HPX500 with lens.

Tim Polster February 12th, 2009 01:01 PM

Good correction. Sorry.

I did not realize the 17x lens was part of the package.

But, I think for this camera to really have 'whooped up' on the Sony it would need 1/2" chips and offer the option of SD card recording like the HMC-150.

Now that the M&R solution is in use, the EX-1 for $6,000 is a lot better value than the HPX-300 at $9,000 given they are both CMOS and the memory price comparisons are pretty far apart.

Joe Lawry February 12th, 2009 02:46 PM

Does SDHC have the through-put to record AVC-I?

I was all set to sell my original HVX and upgrade to this camera.. but the 1/3" chips have just killed it. Im keeping my hvx.

Still, a lovely camera though, its a shame its going to cost a stupid amount of money down here with current exchange rates. I'd rather invest more and go 2/3".

David Heath February 12th, 2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Lawry (Post 1011026)
Does SDHC have the through-put to record AVC-I?

Probably only at 50Mbs. Compact Flash would have been nice though - the XDR proves even fairly cheap CF can record 100Mbs video. The camera has a lot of very nice things about it, if it had had 1/2" chips and CF recording it would have made it about as perfect as could be hoped for at this sort of price.

Tim Polster February 12th, 2009 03:32 PM

I don't know but Sandisk has SDHC cards with advertised 30MBps read & writes.

The HMC-150 can record 24Mbps using class 4 cards so maybe 50Mbps intra might not be that far away?


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