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Old March 30th, 2005, 11:00 PM   #76
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One arm, either left or right doesn't matter. A knee cap and two toes, your choice on which toes and which knee cap. Not pricey at all.

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<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>
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Old March 31st, 2005, 06:00 AM   #77
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<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>

There is no 1 Gig P2 card.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 07:16 AM   #78
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I think he's asking about the 4 gig P2 card.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 07:27 AM   #79
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Jan, you just got married?
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Old March 31st, 2005, 07:34 AM   #80
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Yes I did, but in October 2004, to the man of my dreams. We make a good pair, he is a geeky as I am, so to speak we are two geeks in a pod. ;-)
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:00 AM   #81
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What is the cost for the 4 gig P2. MSRP and street or which that you know of. Thanks


<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Crittenden Livingston : <<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : what is the cost of 4 1 gig cards in the p2 system? -->>>

There is no 1 Gig P2 card. -->>>
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:16 AM   #82
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The 2 gig P2 card was about $1700 street, and it's not even made any more. The 4 gig P2 card should now be less than what a 2 gig P2 card was a year ago. So I'm guessing under $2000 for a 4 gig card.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:16 AM   #83
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Hi Michael,

It is about $1700 today. It was $2,000 about 3 months ago.

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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:45 AM   #84
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So how much video can you get on a 4 gig card?
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:49 AM   #85
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Depending on what you record. in DVCPRO25 it is roughly 18, in DVCPRO50 it is 9, in HD it is about 4.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:58 AM   #86
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What frame rate are these figures based on. Is this on 60 or 24. If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes.

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<<<-- Originally posted by Jan Crittenden Livingston : Depending on what you record. in DVCPRO25 it is roughly 18, in DVCPRO50 it is 9, in HD it is about 4. -->>>
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Old March 31st, 2005, 11:27 AM   #87
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"If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes."


Great question, and one I am dying to hear the answer to.

If that's the case, the amount stored in DVCPro50 at 24P should also increase a little bit (about 10%).

I hope this is the case.
While 1080 24P was a huge surprise, I hope to hear that the assumptions about lowered datarate at lowered framerate was true. If not, this puts a small (very small) damper on what is otherwise great news.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 11:45 AM   #88
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The 60P feature blew me away!

The camera is a Mini Showscan camera. I did research at Showscan corp back in late eighties thru the early 1990's. This camera doing 60P in HD is amazing. Just amazing. Shoot 60p at 1/125th of a second and you have a mini digital Showscan system. WoW!

That aside, this camera has a large format list. We haven't even seen the feature list yet. I'm getting hungry......................

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Old March 31st, 2005, 12:03 PM   #89
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<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Pappas : Jan Crittenden,

What frame rate are these figures based on. Is this on 60 or 24. If it is on 60 does that mean 24P in HD will be around 8 minutes.

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It takes 11.25 GB to record an hour of 25-Mbps video. Therefore, 4 GB should hold 21 minutes and 20 seconds. If the arithmetic holds up, DVCPro HD at 720p24 should be 5/8 of that figure, or about 13 minutes. My guess is that the actual running time will be somewhat less, but certainly should be at least 10 to 12 minutes.
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Old March 31st, 2005, 06:36 PM   #90
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In keeping with this whole "time on P2" theme, does anyone know if Firestore's upcoming HD upgrade for the FS-4 will support DVCPROHD?

I'm sure Firestore had to know this was coming, so I guess we can always hope, huh?
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