P2 card to Hard disk adaptor at DVinfo.net

Anhar Miah · April 2nd, 2005, 05:53 AM

I was wondering if it would be possibe for some one to make an adaptor that acts like P2 card that actually connects to a removable standard PC hard drive? Maybe the guys over at Firestore could look into this.

Or can this new pansonic work with the new HD Firestore (i know it was intended for HDV). A simple firewire cable to a harddrive is a nice solution

Gary McClurg · April 2nd, 2005, 08:09 AM

I was thinking the same thing. If the cards load in the back, just guessing here. Then I was wondering if someone could invent a hard drive that would also hold the hard drive and a battery in the back of the camera and it would just slide into the p2 slots or just one of the slots.

Jan saw that you were online. Too bad you can't say yeah or neah.

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 4th, 2005, 06:23 PM

Actually 5 GB hard disks in the PC-card form factor already exist, and they can potentially be manufactured with much larger capacities using current technology. They should physically fit in the P2 slot, but it is not known yet if the HDX200's firmware will allow writing data to such a card.

Aaron Shaw · April 4th, 2005, 08:12 PM

Maybe these could be of use?

http://www.bixnet.com/5gbpcmcihard.html
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...html?AMA-100101
http://store.yahoo.com/laptopsforless/pcmcilaphard.html
http://www.superwarehouse.com/ABSpl...US-100/p/467846

Anhar Miah · April 5th, 2005, 07:59 AM

I think it should work, as it was said that when the P2 cards are placed into a PCMCIA slot it acts like a removeable hard disk, therefore i think the P2 cards are already complying to some kind of existing standard.

EDIT:

The "PCMCIA Laptop Hard Drive Adapter PN: PCM250AM"

is exactly what i was thinking of, hmm $30 thats amazing, just place this into the camera and add the hard drive of your choice example: 160GB drive for £60 (Source : Malplin UK)

Anhar Miah · April 5th, 2005, 08:15 AM

Hold on there is one way that this can be checked:

Anyone have a AJ-SPX800 camcorder, go and buy one of these $30 adaptor and stick in a harddrive and test it out..

My hunch says it will work.

If it works can i be credited for mentioning it first ? (just kiddin, i know lots of people have probably been thinking on the same line)

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 5th, 2005, 08:29 AM

My hunch says it will not. Most likely --even if it could work-- the camera checks to see if what is inserted is a Panasonic P2 card and not a standard PC-card... remember Panasonic say the P2 cards can act as hard drives in a PC-card slot, but sayhave nothing of things working the othe way around, and they don't market the camera as having PC-card slots, thus only specify P2, so they no obligation to be PC-card compatible.

Anhar Miah · April 5th, 2005, 12:33 PM

I hear what your saying, and it makes sense, however unless someone can test it, both our points are just opinions.

If it did turn out that what you say is true, you could allways emulate the harddrive to act like a P2, after all P2 is nothing more than plain old RAM.

Aaron Shaw · April 5th, 2005, 01:10 PM

Hmm anyone live near a rental store who has a PC card? That would be the easiest means I would think. I'm up in good ol' Montana so I don't have access to this sort of camera.

Joonas Kiviharju · April 6th, 2005, 06:02 AM

One thing is the harddrive writespeeds.
I don't know, but are they fast enough for 100 Mbits/s sustained? Anyone know?

I sure would think they are, after all you can capture DVCPRO-HD on Final Cut Pro straight to disk right? And those Mac harddrives are usually just normal SATA drives.

April 2nd, 2005, 05:53 AM	#1
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	P2 card to Hard disk adaptor I was wondering if it would be possibe for some one to make an adaptor that acts like P2 card that actually connects to a removable standard PC hard drive? Maybe the guys over at Firestore could look into this. Or can this new pansonic work with the new HD Firestore (i know it was intended for HDV). A simple firewire cable to a harddrive is a nice solution

April 4th, 2005, 06:23 PM	#3
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Actually 5 GB hard disks in the PC-card form factor already exist, and they can potentially be manufactured with much larger capacities using current technology. They should physically fit in the P2 slot, but it is not known yet if the HDX200's firmware will allow writing data to such a card. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 5th, 2005, 08:15 AM	#6
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	Request Hold on there is one way that this can be checked: Anyone have a AJ-SPX800 camcorder, go and buy one of these $30 adaptor and stick in a harddrive and test it out.. My hunch says it will work. If it works can i be credited for mentioning it first ? (just kiddin, i know lots of people have probably been thinking on the same line)

April 5th, 2005, 08:29 AM	#7
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	My hunch says it will not. Most likely --even if it could work-- the camera checks to see if what is inserted is a Panasonic P2 card and not a standard PC-card... remember Panasonic say the P2 cards can act as hard drives in a PC-card slot, but sayhave nothing of things working the othe way around, and they don't market the camera as having PC-card slots, thus only specify P2, so they no obligation to be PC-card compatible. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 2nd, 2005, 08:09 AM	#2
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	I was thinking the same thing. If the cards load in the back, just guessing here. Then I was wondering if someone could invent a hard drive that would also hold the hard drive and a battery in the back of the camera and it would just slide into the p2 slots or just one of the slots. Jan saw that you were online. Too bad you can't say yeah or neah.

April 4th, 2005, 08:12 PM	#4
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Maybe these could be of use? http://www.bixnet.com/5gbpcmcihard.html http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...html?AMA-100101 http://store.yahoo.com/laptopsforless/pcmcilaphard.html http://www.superwarehouse.com/ABSpl...US-100/p/467846

April 5th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#5
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	I think it should work, as it was said that when the P2 cards are placed into a PCMCIA slot it acts like a removeable hard disk, therefore i think the P2 cards are already complying to some kind of existing standard. EDIT: The "PCMCIA Laptop Hard Drive Adapter PN: PCM250AM" is exactly what i was thinking of, hmm $30 thats amazing, just place this into the camera and add the hard drive of your choice example: 160GB drive for £60 (Source : Malplin UK)

April 5th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#8
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	I hear what your saying, and it makes sense, however unless someone can test it, both our points are just opinions. If it did turn out that what you say is true, you could allways emulate the harddrive to act like a P2, after all P2 is nothing more than plain old RAM.

April 5th, 2005, 01:10 PM	#9
Aaron Shaw Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 587	Hmm anyone live near a rental store who has a PC card? That would be the easiest means I would think. I'm up in good ol' Montana so I don't have access to this sort of camera.

April 6th, 2005, 06:02 AM	#10
Joonas Kiviharju Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 52	One thing is the harddrive writespeeds. I don't know, but are they fast enough for 100 Mbits/s sustained? Anyone know? I sure would think they are, after all you can capture DVCPRO-HD on Final Cut Pro straight to disk right? And those Mac harddrives are usually just normal SATA drives.