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November 21st, 2005, 03:11 PM
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Obstreperous Rex
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First shoot in U.S. with HVX200 now underway
According to the Panablog (www.defperception.com), Michael Caporale of Cincinatti, OH has been hand-picked by Panasonic to do the first shoot in the U.S. with the HVX200. Of course, it's for a music video! Looks like some of this work will be shown at DV Expo West. Interesting reading at:
http://toshpit.blogs.com/the_toshpit..._sighting.html |
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November 22nd, 2005, 09:49 AM
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Check the first official frame, uncompressed tiff
http://toshpit.blogs.com/images/Car_headlights.tif |
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November 22nd, 2005, 06:54 PM
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I'll be the first...
WOW, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE FILM!!! (heh heh heh, sorry, I had to. :) It looks nice. Me wantee!
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November 22nd, 2005, 11:24 PM
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The car looks great. Just like film. The people don't. Too edgy on the tires. That matte looks like an apprentice using photoshop for the very first time. Is that really a video composition?
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November 22nd, 2005, 11:48 PM
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i hope this video isn't all green screen fx stuff. I would much rather have a couple of standard shots to see what this image looks like without having to judge the fx work and green screen stuff at the same time. Sorry to say it, but I'm disappointed that this is the first stuff we see from it.
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November 23rd, 2005, 12:22 AM
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Obstreperous Rex
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It's one frame. I'd hold off on judgement until we've seen some more.
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November 23rd, 2005, 03:25 AM
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on the contrary
if it is G/S work then they've proven to us that the panny can do 4:2:2 colour sampling. thats a big step for a handheld camera
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November 23rd, 2005, 03:38 AM
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That is fully greenscreened! Arg! Who cares how the camera performs in a composite that's only a test of it's colour space. They need to use it for real on location so we can how it actually holds up to real life, that's where it'll get the majority of it's use. How good it is for greenscreening is just an added bonus. Use real tried tested and true filmmaking techniques. How much of that picture is actually the hvx? Like 40%? They need to make a short film or something not some over stylized MTV video where you can't tell the real from the fake.
"Panasonic gave me no requirements and no limits, they just said, here’s the camera. They gave me all the flexibility to explore. I thought that testing this camera on a green screen shoot would be a good indicator of its quality. And it was. Best matte work I’ve seen. HDV GOP compression couldn’t have handled that." That isn't a good indicator of it's whole quality that's an indicator of how good it is for matte work. |
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November 23rd, 2005, 07:42 AM
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Obstreperous Rex
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November 23rd, 2005, 10:31 AM
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Actually green screen work would be one of the most usefull areas for this camera so I think this is a great first image. A lot of the people that really want this camera are those who have been begging for a 4:2:2 camera for many years for compositing. A "regular" shot may have shown us how nice the overall image is but it wouldn't answer the question that would be killing many people on how well it worked for keying.
If a camera works this well in a compositing situation it will clearly do much better in a non compositing situation. Just look at the car and picture that level of quality over the entire frame. |
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November 23rd, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Very disappointed with this first picture. We have been waiting for an official image approved by a corporation as big as Panasonic, and this is what we get. Doesn't make sense. The shot contains aliasing, codec artifacts and I have pulled a better key blind folded with less than half the keying technology we have today to do a key.
Lets see some 1080p stuff shot. Give the camera to Barry Green and company that shot the JVC material, and lets get this camera tested the real way and in 1080P...... Pappas |
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November 23rd, 2005, 09:16 PM
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November 23rd, 2005, 09:18 PM
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Obstreperous Rex
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The Gimp walks! Hooray!
And yeah, that's Charles Papert and company... of which Barry was certainly a part... but that JVC shoot belonged to Chas. Get your facts straight, Pappas! |
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November 23rd, 2005, 09:32 PM
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Barry Wan Kenobi
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Absolutely -- that was Charles' gig, he just invited me along to play but it was Papert all the way! And it looked fantastic too!
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November 23rd, 2005, 10:11 PM
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Yes Chris, the Gimp has emerged from the basement, blinking his eyes against the harsh Cali sun...
The wounded hoof is doing pretty well, walking pretty normally and tentatively back to work...
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