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Chris Hurd · December 7th, 2005, 09:51 AM

Check it out, it's on the main splash page at www.panasonic.com

Today is the big roll-out!

Daniel Broadway · December 7th, 2005, 11:47 AM

By roll out, do you mean it's already shipping?

Joe Orlando · December 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM

December 29
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...odel=AG-HVX200

Edwin Hernandez · December 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM

December 29. Grrrrrrrrrrreat!

Also, I've noticed they added different purchasing options, with no card, with one 4GB card, two 4GB cards, five 4GB cards, and two 8 GB cards. Great price options for starters.
Also, suggested price for 4 GB cards is $650. This is sooo cool, in a few months, the 4GB cards will cost like $300 and that will be something anyone can afford. Surely the 8 GB cards will drop its price in a year.

GREAT NEWS CHRIS.

Kurth Bousman · December 7th, 2005, 12:18 PM

ok - games' up - 2x 4g cards for 7 big bills - I think they rethought their marketing strategy in light of the h1. That means , in 6 months , for 6 grand (street prices ) a working hd solution for small feature projects. Absolutely cool. Guess I'll be watching this forum more often !

Chris Hurd · December 7th, 2005, 04:18 PM

Some updated pricing info...

HVX200 alone: $5,995
HVX200 plus one 4GB P2 card: $6,645
HVX200 plus two 4GB P2 cards: $6,995
HVX200 plus five 4GB P2 cards: $9,240
HVX200 plus two 8GB P2 cards: $9,995

Barry Green · December 7th, 2005, 10:39 PM

The two-4gb card bundle is totally workable for dramatic narrative. That's what we used to shoot the demo footage with; I offloaded to my laptop between takes. It took longer to set up each shot than it did to offload the cards. Offloading never slowed us down for a second.

I'm not sure which package is most appealing. I really didn't want to pay the big bucks for the P2 Store, 'cause it's just hard to justify $1800 or whatever for a 60gb hard disk. However, that would mean you'd have 17 cards worth of storage, 2 4gb's and the P2 Store.

On the other hand, for the same money, you could get the 5-card bundle.

I wouldn't go with the two-8gb bundle though; I think the five 4-gb is the much better buy, as you're getting more recording time, more swappability, hot-swappability, and saving $800 or $900 or whatever, and the cards are just going to go down in price the longer you keep 'em.

Hopefully Graeme on the Mac, and some other enterprising programmer on the PC, will come up with a P2-store-like program for a laptop, so you could just pop the card in and it would auto-detect and autorun a quaffing program that would automatically copy (with verify) the card off, and then give you the option to format it... that would be the best way to go, as then you could get the two-4gb bundle and put the rest of the cash towards a killer editing laptop.

Don Donatello · December 7th, 2005, 11:42 PM

have i missed something ??

where's the info on the CCD's
we know they are 1080p ..
so that is ???? X 1080 ... i don't see any PIXEL info ??
what is panasonic saying about em !!!

Jeff Kilgroe · December 8th, 2005, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Donatello

have i missed something ??

where's the info on the CCD's
we know they are 1080p ..
so that is ???? X 1080 ... i don't see any PIXEL info ??
what is panasonic saying about em !!!

It's a secret, aparently...

I think we're guessing the CCD block to be 960x1080 or 1280x1080, but only Panny engineers know for sure. It may not conform to either of those dimensions exactly as it may be a bit larger (1024x1280, 960x1280, etc..) with the image scanning out of a centralized area. The voices in my head are telling me that the camera is utilizing a scanned area of 960x1080 with a horizontal half pixel shift on the green layer, effectively giving a 1440x1080 image to work with - after all, DVCPROHD in 1080 mode is still encoded at 1280x1080.

Who knows, I may be talking out of my butt.

Riley Harmon · December 8th, 2005, 02:00 AM

DEC 29!!! I CAnT wait...actually...i can because i dont have 7k :-(

Carl Ny · December 8th, 2005, 02:02 AM

Any news/ release for the PAL cam?

Thanks.

Carl

Don Donatello · December 8th, 2005, 09:54 AM

now if the panasonic CCD block is a secret ??

well i just find it hard to believe that after all the down/up talk about the sony, canon, jvc blocks that NOBODY is giving LIP to panasonic for NOT releasing that info ..i was under the impression ( or maybe i read it ) from Jan that all that info would be released when the camera was "launched " ... no other camera is getting away without stating info on the CCD block ...

i also find it ??? that you can only VIEW the image on a 17" monitor at DV expo ???? whats with that .. HEY last year sony had their HDV upstairs on a 25ft screen where WE the viewer could see what it looks like HUGE !!!!

well !! i'll be giving panasonic lip about it today at the show !!!

Lawrence Bansbach · December 8th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kilgroe

The voices in my head are telling me that the camera is utilizing a scanned area of 960x1080 with a horizontal half pixel shift on the green layer.

Jeff, over at dvxuser I thought I saw a picture of a slide from Jan C's presentation that actually mentioned a half-pixel shift. I believe it also mentioned a vertical pixel shift, but that may be less severe.

Claude Isbell · December 8th, 2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Some updated pricing info...

HVX200 alone: $5,995
HVX200 plus one 4GB P2 card: $6,645
HVX200 plus two 4GB P2 cards: $6,995
HVX200 plus five 4GB P2 cards: $9,240
HVX200 plus two 8GB P2 cards: $9,995

I have to say, even though we know the price is going to go down for storage, ten grand is still an amazing price for what you're going to be getting.

Joshua Provost · December 8th, 2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Donatello

now if the panasonic CCD block is a secret ??

well i just find it hard to believe that after all the down/up talk about the sony, canon, jvc blocks that NOBODY is giving LIP to panasonic for NOT releasing that info

Oh, they're getting plenty of lip. You're just not reading the right forum. Over at dvxuser.com there are threads upon threads about it.

December 7th, 2005, 09:51 AM	#1
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December 7th, 2005, 11:47 AM	#2
Daniel Broadway Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 165	By roll out, do you mean it's already shipping?

December 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM	#3
Joe Orlando Tourist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ormond beach florida Posts: 4	December 29 http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...odel=AG-HVX200

December 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM	#4
Edwin Hernandez Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 162	December 29. Grrrrrrrrrrreat! Also, I've noticed they added different purchasing options, with no card, with one 4GB card, two 4GB cards, five 4GB cards, and two 8 GB cards. Great price options for starters. Also, suggested price for 4 GB cards is $650. This is sooo cool, in a few months, the 4GB cards will cost like $300 and that will be something anyone can afford. Surely the 8 GB cards will drop its price in a year. GREAT NEWS CHRIS.

December 7th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#5
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	ok - games' up - 2x 4g cards for 7 big bills - I think they rethought their marketing strategy in light of the h1. That means , in 6 months , for 6 grand (street prices ) a working hd solution for small feature projects. Absolutely cool. Guess I'll be watching this forum more often !

December 7th, 2005, 10:39 PM	#7
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	The two-4gb card bundle is totally workable for dramatic narrative. That's what we used to shoot the demo footage with; I offloaded to my laptop between takes. It took longer to set up each shot than it did to offload the cards. Offloading never slowed us down for a second. I'm not sure which package is most appealing. I really didn't want to pay the big bucks for the P2 Store, 'cause it's just hard to justify $1800 or whatever for a 60gb hard disk. However, that would mean you'd have 17 cards worth of storage, 2 4gb's and the P2 Store. On the other hand, for the same money, you could get the 5-card bundle. I wouldn't go with the two-8gb bundle though; I think the five 4-gb is the much better buy, as you're getting more recording time, more swappability, hot-swappability, and saving $800 or $900 or whatever, and the cards are just going to go down in price the longer you keep 'em. Hopefully Graeme on the Mac, and some other enterprising programmer on the PC, will come up with a P2-store-like program for a laptop, so you could just pop the card in and it would auto-detect and autorun a quaffing program that would automatically copy (with verify) the card off, and then give you the option to format it... that would be the best way to go, as then you could get the two-4gb bundle and put the rest of the cash towards a killer editing laptop.

December 7th, 2005, 11:42 PM	#8
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	have i missed something ?? where's the info on the CCD's we know they are 1080p .. so that is ???? X 1080 ... i don't see any PIXEL info ?? what is panasonic saying about em !!!

December 8th, 2005, 02:00 AM	#10
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	DEC 29!!! I CAnT wait...actually...i can because i dont have 7k :-(

December 8th, 2005, 02:02 AM	#11
Carl Ny Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: World wide Posts: 77	Any news/ release for the PAL cam? Thanks. Carl

December 8th, 2005, 09:54 AM	#12
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	now if the panasonic CCD block is a secret ?? well i just find it hard to believe that after all the down/up talk about the sony, canon, jvc blocks that NOBODY is giving LIP to panasonic for NOT releasing that info ..i was under the impression ( or maybe i read it ) from Jan that all that info would be released when the camera was "launched " ... no other camera is getting away without stating info on the CCD block ... i also find it ??? that you can only VIEW the image on a 17" monitor at DV expo ???? whats with that .. HEY last year sony had their HDV upstairs on a 25ft screen where WE the viewer could see what it looks like HUGE !!!! well !! i'll be giving panasonic lip about it today at the show !!!