Slow motion concern at DVinfo.net

Chris Jothi · February 8th, 2006, 12:40 PM

I was at the Video Forum in London yesterday, and got a demonstation of the slow motion capabilities of one of Sony's current Cinealta XD HD Cams (or whatever it's called). I recorded at 50P and played back on their XDCAM deck at 25P and was bitterly disappointed by the clarity of the slow motion. Sure, the slow motion was smooth but it was blurry where I thought it would be detailed.

Cranking the frame rate was not possible on this camera. And having seen the HVX yesterday, and spending a good half hour with it yesterday I can honestly say the difference in performance is not as big as the price (there is a difference, but worth over £20/£30k?!). Seriously, invest in some good filters for this Panny and take time to light on set and grade in post and you will have a very comparable image that joe public would not honestly notice the difference with.

Last year I used a Sony Betacam Slow Motion system that slowed down motion by 1/3, using multiple fields during recording to ensure playback is very smooth. The current slow motion we are used to on sports broadcasts are digital systems, barely improving on the motion of the analogue system, but ensure the signal is cleaner.

As the 60P fram rate capability of this camera is a major selling point for me has anyone got any tests of the HVX doing good slow mo? Thanks, Chris

Kenn Christenson · February 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM

I have a 15MB file of a heavy flowing river crashing on rocks @60P if anyone can host it. I don't have access to FTP, so I'll have to email it.

Marc Olivier Chouinard · February 8th, 2006, 05:42 PM

The 15MB file is a HVX200 video or another camera ? if it hvx email mochouinard AT m0c.com (mZEROc.com)
I will put it at http://hvx200.moctel.com

Kenn Christenson · February 8th, 2006, 05:46 PM

Thanks, Marc.

I sent the HVX shot off to you.

Kenn

Marc Olivier Chouinard · February 8th, 2006, 06:22 PM

Very Nice Kenn, look great.. Keep them comming
Video at :
http://hvx200.moctel.com/Users/Kenn_Christenson/

I wish you could send me the original MXF files ;)

Kenn Christenson · February 8th, 2006, 11:28 PM

Sorry, Marc. The original MXF is almost 500MB. Won't quite fit through my email system;)

February 8th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#1
Chris Jothi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 74	Slow motion concern I was at the Video Forum in London yesterday, and got a demonstation of the slow motion capabilities of one of Sony's current Cinealta XD HD Cams (or whatever it's called). I recorded at 50P and played back on their XDCAM deck at 25P and was bitterly disappointed by the clarity of the slow motion. Sure, the slow motion was smooth but it was blurry where I thought it would be detailed. Cranking the frame rate was not possible on this camera. And having seen the HVX yesterday, and spending a good half hour with it yesterday I can honestly say the difference in performance is not as big as the price (there is a difference, but worth over £20/£30k?!). Seriously, invest in some good filters for this Panny and take time to light on set and grade in post and you will have a very comparable image that joe public would not honestly notice the difference with. Last year I used a Sony Betacam Slow Motion system that slowed down motion by 1/3, using multiple fields during recording to ensure playback is very smooth. The current slow motion we are used to on sports broadcasts are digital systems, barely improving on the motion of the analogue system, but ensure the signal is cleaner. As the 60P fram rate capability of this camera is a major selling point for me has anyone got any tests of the HVX doing good slow mo? Thanks, Chris

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February 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM	#2
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	I have a 15MB file of a heavy flowing river crashing on rocks @60P if anyone can host it. I don't have access to FTP, so I'll have to email it.

February 8th, 2006, 05:42 PM	#3
Marc Olivier Chouinard Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Québec Canada Posts: 26	The 15MB file is a HVX200 video or another camera ? if it hvx email mochouinard AT m0c.com (mZEROc.com) I will put it at http://hvx200.moctel.com

February 8th, 2006, 05:46 PM	#4
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	Thanks, Marc. I sent the HVX shot off to you. Kenn

February 8th, 2006, 06:22 PM	#5
Marc Olivier Chouinard Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Québec Canada Posts: 26	Very Nice Kenn, look great.. Keep them comming Video at : http://hvx200.moctel.com/Users/Kenn_Christenson/ I wish you could send me the original MXF files ;)

February 8th, 2006, 11:28 PM	#6
Kenn Christenson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 152	Sorry, Marc. The original MXF is almost 500MB. Won't quite fit through my email system;)