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Old April 6th, 2006, 01:21 PM   #16
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I just showed the clip to our keying specialist who basically spends hours shooting key every day. It took at least 60-seconds for him to turn around and look at me with a grin saying "you got me, it's a key job." For sixty seconds he had not realised it. Then I told him it was an HVX and not a Varicam and without a beat turned around, popped open his Firefox and logged into B&H. Geez, I wonder why.
That's funny, and you know what? This was with an old blue screen with wrinkles, if we had put a lot of time into it and used a pro matte green screen i bet the results would have been awesome...
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Old April 6th, 2006, 02:14 PM   #17
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Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:28 PM   #18
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Thanks Steve...

I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet.

The room we were in was about 800 square feet.

a 1k soft bank was on from the right side, and a kicker in the back for hair light, then we lit the blue screen with one 650 Fresnel and two 300 frenels.

i think that was it...

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Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:30 PM   #19
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Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:31 PM   #20
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Thanks Bill, It was Maya...

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Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:40 PM   #21
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Thanks Bill, It was Maya...
Outstanding Cassidy. That must of taken some time.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 03:46 PM   #22
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I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet. The room we were in was about 800 square feet.
Thanks for that info. That definitely supports what I've been saying. I believe it's time to look for a studio to rent time in. But on shoots that already have secured large locations, I'll be givin the green screen a workout, and see what's possible.

Inspiring work, Cassidy!!
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Old April 6th, 2006, 11:02 PM   #23
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Thanks, Cassidy, for your inspiring work. In a moment I was starting to hesitate about buying the HVX, with the announcement of the new Shootout, but seeing your work was reassuring. There are strenghts this camera offers that no other in the pricerange can achieve (the variable frame rates and 4:2:2 are the major catch, for me).

Seeing this type of results can be achieved makes me confident on the camera purchase. If I cannot do things of similar quality, than it is ME who is not up to par, and not the equipment.

I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?
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Old April 7th, 2006, 08:44 AM   #24
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I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?
Yea, this camera helps to express yourself giving you freedom to create within streamlined and challenging budgets, it's where the HVX excels... When we set up our green screen I'll make sure to shoot in the 1080p mode.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 08:51 AM   #25
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You may or may not be interested in the emotional roller coaster I just experienced in the last two minutes. When I saw your footage I was excited about the possibilities that I realized are open to me with my new HVX200. Then I clicked on the link you provided, and I was disappointed to find out it costs $2,500; of course it's easy to achieve great keys like this when you can afford high end software. Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!

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Old April 7th, 2006, 10:02 AM   #26
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keylight comes with after effects pro.
it's a lot less than $2,500.
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The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

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$2,500? Well that's not too bad for the results it gives. You could very well buy Shake for about the same price. Still, if it works, it works, ya know? =)
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Old April 7th, 2006, 10:57 AM   #29
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keylight comes with after effects pro.
Darrell, I see my story was not exciting enough to keep you reading through the third act:
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Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!
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Old April 8th, 2006, 08:05 AM   #30
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Yes, there is a way around that, I could have created a matte for the glass, and keyed that seperately, put a garbage matte around it and only be concerned about the girl and her hair... then I would go back and key out the blue of the glass on a seperate layer... so it would be attainable. This was a really quick key, I had a lot of work to do that day.

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The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

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