P2-Final Cut Compatability at DVinfo.net

Micah Brooke · June 14th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Hello,

I'm shooting a short film in August and will be using the HVX200, but I've run into a problem. My editor owns Final Cut 4.5, and, according to another source the P2 data isn't compatible with that software. I'm curious to know what the compatability issue is, and what I can do about it. Thanks.

Shane Ross · June 15th, 2006, 01:29 AM

The compatibility issue is that the HVX camera was introduced two years after FCP 4.5 was released...therefore that version of FCP doesn't support that camera.

You need FCP version 5.0.4 or later, and Quicktime version 7.0.3 or later in order to import and work with footage from this camera. Now is a good time to update to 5.1, as the cost is VERY cheap. Like $200 for current FCP 4.5 users.

See my P2 tutorial at http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bi...low/index.html

Barry Green · June 15th, 2006, 11:03 AM

You can sort of have limited compatibility with 4.5. What you'd have to do is play the footage from the camera and capture via the firewire port.

However, it would be far easier to just upgrade to 5.1...

Mike Schrengohst · June 15th, 2006, 01:29 PM

Yes, I 2nd Barry on that. Running 5.1.1 here with no issues.
I would upgrade NOW and test workflow before shooting.
What mode are you planning on shooting in?
It seems most filmakers are going 1080 24pA......

Micah Brooke · June 17th, 2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Schrengohst

Yes, I 2nd Barry on that. Running 5.1.1 here with no issues.
I would upgrade NOW and test workflow before shooting.
What mode are you planning on shooting in?
It seems most filmakers are going 1080 24pA......

720p 24/60fps.

Another question. Is there any way of dumping the footage to an external w/ laptop without the compatible editing software. If I had access to a Final Cut 5.1.1 system get the footage from the external drive, use 5.1.1 to create compatible movie files, then throw them back onto the drive(s) and hand the drive(s) to my editor? Uhhh....nothing's simple. Thx everyone.

Shane Ross · June 18th, 2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Micah Brooke

Is there any way of dumping the footage to an external w/ laptop without the compatible editing software. If I had access to a Final Cut 5.1.1 system get the footage from the external drive, use 5.1.1 to create compatible movie files, then throw them back onto the drive(s) and hand the drive(s) to my editor? Uhhh....nothing's simple. Thx everyone.

YOu don't need a computer with editing software to copy the footage off the P2 cards. All you need is a PC or Mac laptop with a PCMCIA slot and the P2 driver software. You copy all the footage (every folder, every clip) onto an external drive. This is in essense your master tape. This drive, or several drives will be used for archiving. When you get back to the office or the post facility, you then use FCP to import (add the quicktime wrapper to) the footage onto Media drives for editing. Then you put the drives with the master MXF files onto a shelf, or back up onto another medium (DVD, Blue-Ray).

David Tamés · June 19th, 2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Micah Brooke

[...] Is there any way of dumping the footage to an external w/ laptop without the compatible editing software [...]

In addition to dumping files to a laptop (as Shane Ross writes, there is no need to have editing software on the laptop to do this), however, you might want to view, log, and edit metadata on the set. For that you can use the new P2 Log application for Macintosh which was introduced today. See this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=69838

June 14th, 2006, 11:12 PM	#1
Micah Brooke New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: overland park, KS Posts: 8	P2-Final Cut Compatability Hello, I'm shooting a short film in August and will be using the HVX200, but I've run into a problem. My editor owns Final Cut 4.5, and, according to another source the P2 data isn't compatible with that software. I'm curious to know what the compatability issue is, and what I can do about it. Thanks.

June 15th, 2006, 01:29 PM	#4
Mike Schrengohst Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 355	Yes, I 2nd Barry on that. Running 5.1.1 here with no issues. I would upgrade NOW and test workflow before shooting. What mode are you planning on shooting in? It seems most filmakers are going 1080 24pA...... __________________ Mike Schrengohst dvd.pro@verizon.net

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June 15th, 2006, 01:29 AM	#2
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	The compatibility issue is that the HVX camera was introduced two years after FCP 4.5 was released...therefore that version of FCP doesn't support that camera. You need FCP version 5.0.4 or later, and Quicktime version 7.0.3 or later in order to import and work with footage from this camera. Now is a good time to update to 5.1, as the cost is VERY cheap. Like $200 for current FCP 4.5 users. See my P2 tutorial at http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bi...low/index.html

June 15th, 2006, 11:03 AM	#3
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	You can sort of have limited compatibility with 4.5. What you'd have to do is play the footage from the camera and capture via the firewire port. However, it would be far easier to just upgrade to 5.1...