More HVX truth

Steve Madsen · August 12th, 2006, 05:10 AM

I'm keen to see your results Robert. I've just bought a HVX knowing (or believing I knew) full well that it can't handle background detail like the other cams. I've seen a lot of footage from the HVX, and everything pointed to the same thing. Very different to what I was seeing from the H1 (and HD100). And I'm not talking about differences due to edge enhancement, or upped detail levels.

Regardless, I bought the HVX (for its many other benefits). Keep us posted.

Robert Lane · August 13th, 2006, 09:05 AM

Did Godzilla ever apologize to the citizens of Tokyo for trashing their city? Nope, but I owe my forum members an apology!

As most of you know, I've been one of the most vocal pro-HVX voices on this forum and many of you have emailed over the months saying that the decision to purchase one was based partly on reviews and feedback that I've supplied. That's heavy. So when I started this thread saying the the HVX wouldn't work for me and, showing off some weaknesses many had a mini-heart attack.

Unfortunately it wasn't until a few days after creating this post that I realized my testing had been bungled by my own distractions, and have since recanted most of the worrysome commentary. No doubt this left many scratching their heads - and rightly so!

So I humbly apologize for making such a goof and needlessly stirring the pot with incorrect/incomplete data.

To make up for the head-spinning I'm offering to the first 10 people who say, "I want one" a free copy of my "Photos in a Flash" DVD which will be out in October. And guess what: The entire project is being shot on the HVX! So there.

So what is Photos in a Flash and why should you care? Check this out: http://www.photosinaflash.com

I'm putting together the revised color tests today and will be posting it - somewhere, not sure where yet.

August 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM

Thanks Robert!

And really, I've enjoyed your thread from day one. I think that guys like you help push the manufacturers to make better products. I remember speaking with you while we were waiting for the HVX to be released and appreciated your input. I also would have read every thread you posted in the H1 forum, as it would have been interesting to see what your opinions were after having worked with both the HVX200 and H1.

For me - true 24p, 4:2:2 color, P2 and the entire workflow from shooting to editing make the HVX the camera for me (for now).

And really, thanks for apologizing, but I don't think you need to at all.

Narayan Van Maele · August 13th, 2006, 09:19 AM

I WANT ONE

but hey if Europe is not counted into that offer I understand :)
thanks

Kevin Railsback · August 13th, 2006, 10:04 AM

I want one! :)

Robert Lane · August 13th, 2006, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narayan Van Maele

I WANT ONE

but hey if Europe is not counted into that offer I understand :)
thanks

Sorry Narayan, the International versions are probably a year or two down the road.

Dee Joslin · August 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM

Robert, I want one. I agree with Derek. No apology needed. I made a decision with lot's of research and I was about to make a change. When that didn't work out, I decided to add, not delete. So everything I liked about the HVX still holds. And I will do some testing of my own in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon the week after next. As for which camera I add, that remains to be seen.

Sukhpal Singh · August 13th, 2006, 12:52 PM

I would like to get one.

Philip Williams · August 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM

I want one! I think my wife would really like the DVD and I'd love to see the video quality (OK, I'd probably benefit from the content as well).

www.philipwilliams.com

Robert Lane · August 13th, 2006, 05:13 PM

The HVX color test clip will be ready to go this evening. However, I can't post it here since it busts the file size limit.

I want everybody to have the ability to see the results as clean as possible, so I'm outputting it as full-res QT (1280x720 24p).

The finished QT file will be around 250-300MB when I'm done cutting it together; I don't have any hosting sites yet and the free services can't take a file this large.

Does anyone have a site that wouldn't mind hosting this?

Dee Joslin · August 13th, 2006, 06:13 PM

Oh well...

Leonard Levy · August 13th, 2006, 09:17 PM

Robert,
I'm just as interested in your subjective judgement about the results (which I see you have not yet revealed) than in actually looking at the files as posted on the web.
I guess I never trust web pictures - maybe that's not technically sophisticated.
So what do you think?

Robert Lane · August 13th, 2006, 10:09 PM

Leonard,

I'm not posting web images this time; the full-res QT file is being put online for downloading. You can either view in QT or import it into FCP and watch it on an external monitor.

More when the file is online.

Robert Lane · August 14th, 2006, 07:04 AM

Since this thread has digressed from the main topic I'm putting up the HVX color test clip in a separate thread. It's online now.

Jason Ramsey · December 20th, 2006, 02:03 PM

is it too late to ask for one of your dvd's?

Jason

August 13th, 2006, 09:05 AM	#77
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Godzilla Sorry Did Godzilla ever apologize to the citizens of Tokyo for trashing their city? Nope, but I owe my forum members an apology! As most of you know, I've been one of the most vocal pro-HVX voices on this forum and many of you have emailed over the months saying that the decision to purchase one was based partly on reviews and feedback that I've supplied. That's heavy. So when I started this thread saying the the HVX wouldn't work for me and, showing off some weaknesses many had a mini-heart attack. Unfortunately it wasn't until a few days after creating this post that I realized my testing had been bungled by my own distractions, and have since recanted most of the worrysome commentary. No doubt this left many scratching their heads - and rightly so! So I humbly apologize for making such a goof and needlessly stirring the pot with incorrect/incomplete data. To make up for the head-spinning I'm offering to the first 10 people who say, "I want one" a free copy of my "Photos in a Flash" DVD which will be out in October. And guess what: The entire project is being shot on the HVX! So there. So what is Photos in a Flash and why should you care? Check this out: http://www.photosinaflash.com I'm putting together the revised color tests today and will be posting it - somewhere, not sure where yet. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

August 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM	#78
Guest Posts: n/a	I want one Thanks Robert! And really, I've enjoyed your thread from day one. I think that guys like you help push the manufacturers to make better products. I remember speaking with you while we were waiting for the HVX to be released and appreciated your input. I also would have read every thread you posted in the H1 forum, as it would have been interesting to see what your opinions were after having worked with both the HVX200 and H1. For me - true 24p, 4:2:2 color, P2 and the entire workflow from shooting to editing make the HVX the camera for me (for now). And really, thanks for apologizing, but I don't think you need to at all.

August 13th, 2006, 09:19 AM	#79
Narayan Van Maele New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 14	Cool I WANT ONE but hey if Europe is not counted into that offer I understand :) thanks

August 13th, 2006, 10:04 AM	#80
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	I want one! :) __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

August 13th, 2006, 05:13 PM	#85
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Need Hosting help The HVX color test clip will be ready to go this evening. However, I can't post it here since it busts the file size limit. I want everybody to have the ability to see the results as clean as possible, so I'm outputting it as full-res QT (1280x720 24p). The finished QT file will be around 250-300MB when I'm done cutting it together; I don't have any hosting sites yet and the free services can't take a file this large. Does anyone have a site that wouldn't mind hosting this? __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

August 12th, 2006, 05:10 AM	#76
Steve Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 111	I'm keen to see your results Robert. I've just bought a HVX knowing (or believing I knew) full well that it can't handle background detail like the other cams. I've seen a lot of footage from the HVX, and everything pointed to the same thing. Very different to what I was seeing from the H1 (and HD100). And I'm not talking about differences due to edge enhancement, or upped detail levels. Regardless, I bought the HVX (for its many other benefits). Keep us posted.

August 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM	#82
Dee Joslin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Scranton, PA. Posts: 91	Robert, I want one. I agree with Derek. No apology needed. I made a decision with lot's of research and I was about to make a change. When that didn't work out, I decided to add, not delete. So everything I liked about the HVX still holds. And I will do some testing of my own in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon the week after next. As for which camera I add, that remains to be seen.

August 13th, 2006, 12:52 PM	#83
Sukhpal Singh New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Jalandhar, India Posts: 15	I would like to get one.

August 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM	#84
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	I want one! I think my wife would really like the DVD and I'd love to see the video quality (OK, I'd probably benefit from the content as well). www.philipwilliams.com

August 13th, 2006, 06:13 PM	#86
Dee Joslin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Scranton, PA. Posts: 91	Oh well... Last edited by Dee Joslin; August 14th, 2006 at 03:59 PM.

August 13th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#87
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Robert, I'm just as interested in your subjective judgement about the results (which I see you have not yet revealed) than in actually looking at the files as posted on the web. I guess I never trust web pictures - maybe that's not technically sophisticated. So what do you think?

August 13th, 2006, 10:09 PM	#88
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Leonard, I'm not posting web images this time; the full-res QT file is being put online for downloading. You can either view in QT or import it into FCP and watch it on an external monitor. More when the file is online. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV Last edited by Robert Lane; August 14th, 2006 at 07:03 AM.

August 14th, 2006, 07:04 AM	#89
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Color sample online Since this thread has digressed from the main topic I'm putting up the HVX color test clip in a separate thread. It's online now. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV

December 20th, 2006, 02:03 PM	#90
Jason Ramsey RED / Scarlet / DVXUser Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 29	is it too late to ask for one of your dvd's? Jason