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Old March 9th, 2007, 03:36 PM   #1
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Okay, I just botched a shoot. . . can I fix it?

Forget shooting my actors. I'm ready to shoot MYSELF.

:-(

I was attempting to shoot slow motion in 24 frames (720, of course), but instead of changing the frame rate in the SCENE FILE, I changed it in the recording set up menu. This means that I now have cuts in both 720/24PN and 720/60P.

Can I turn those 720/60P shots into slow motion? Or am I cooked?

What a stupid mistake.

:-(

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Old March 9th, 2007, 04:12 PM   #2
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I would think shooting 60p to convert to slow motion would be the way to go, actually. It should give you a smoother slow motion effect. The slow motion film cams shot at higher rate to play at standard 24 fps to get the slow motion. Am I understanding your question right ?

Now doing it on the same time line with the other stuff.. that an editing/editor issue, right ?
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Old March 9th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #3
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There was a thread a couple of days ago about how to turn 60p into 24p on the mac using cinema tools...don't remember the specifics.
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Old March 9th, 2007, 09:09 PM   #4
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If I'm not mistaken...

Just use Cinema Tools and do a reverse Telecine. This will convert your footage to actual progressive. It should then line up with your 24n pretty well.


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Old March 9th, 2007, 11:51 PM   #5
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If I'm not mistaken...

Just use Cinema Tools and do a reverse Telecine. This will convert your footage to actual progressive. It should then line up with your 24n pretty well.
Eh, sorry Byron, you're mistaken.

Reverse telecine is something else. Stephen, to do what you're talking about (make the p60 to p24), you'd open the clips in Cinema Tools and CONFORM to 23.98. Not reverse telecine.

It does nothing to the files except instruct QT to play the frames back at 23.98 instead of 60.
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Old March 9th, 2007, 11:54 PM   #6
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Use the Frame Rate Convertor to change 720 60p footage to slo-mo,
don't feel bad - we have all done that!
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Old March 10th, 2007, 03:15 PM   #7
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Hi there, Nate and Michael. . .

I have been attempting to locate something called "frame rate converter" in Final Cut Pro, but I'm not finding it under any heading. I see a convert 25 to 24, but that's it.

Any ideas where I'd find this???

Thanks so much!

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Old March 10th, 2007, 03:23 PM   #8
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Stephen,

I'm not familiar with a "frame rate" converter per-se, but the easiest way to get slo-mo in your clip is this:

Control-click (or left mouse button click) on the clip in the timeline; use the "speed" command to ramp-up or down the clip so that it's the speed you want. Since you accidentally shot this at a higher frame-rate than 24fps, this will make for a nice conversion to slow mo, whereas if you had shot in 24fps and slowed things down it would be much less smooth.

Alternatively, if you have it available Shake will also do speed conversions - and much, much smoother than FCP can.
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Old March 10th, 2007, 03:28 PM   #9
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two threads that might help:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=80195

http://macfreelancer.com/radlance/fi...tor%20Help.txt
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Old March 10th, 2007, 04:49 PM   #10
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Cinema Tools.

Conform.

Doing it in FCP with a speed change will inadvertently blend frames together.
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Old March 10th, 2007, 10:39 PM   #11
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Hello Stephen,
The Frame Rate Convertor is installed when you install FCP 5.1
The FRC on the Pana website does not work correctly (at least not the last time I checked)

Start a project - for this test make two sequences.
One at 720 p24 and another at 720 p30....

Import all of your 720 p60 clips from your P2 cards.

Do not edit them....

Then click on the first clip.

Then go to Tools>DVCPRO HD Frame Rate Convertor

A box will pop up-
Conversion Options
23.98, 29.97. 59.94
and three boxes you can check....

Remove Duplicate Frames
Make-Self Contained File
Import Result into FCP

I usually check all three,
Pick your Frame Rate and then go....
Try a test - one at 23.98 and one at 29.97
This will give you the slo-mo files from a 60p
file.

For example a test I shot at 60p was 23.28 seconds
The 24p file was converted and was 58.16 seconds
and the 30p file was 46.28 seconds
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