Archive the footage from P2 card??? at DVinfo.net

Cengiz Ozgok · June 17th, 2007, 11:15 AM

I would know how the hvx users archive them capture files from the P2 card.

Jim Exton · June 17th, 2007, 11:48 AM

I archive all footage onto dvd, at least two copies of all footage.

I also archive the finished product on dvd as well. Again, two copies.

Chris Hurd · June 17th, 2007, 11:58 AM

With a capacity of only 4 GB, I can't imagine the number of DVDs required to archive a P2 HD project. I think the best method of archiving (as well as the most cost-effective and manageable method) is a tape drive. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....32&postcount=4

Kevin Railsback · June 17th, 2007, 03:15 PM

Like Jim, I back up all my footage on two DVD copies.

Matt Gottshalk · June 17th, 2007, 08:05 PM

I will probably be getting the Quantum DLT-600a.

It has gig-e and is MXF aware. The tapes are good for 30 years.

Not cheap, but it is a far better (and longer term) solution than FW hard drives, which is what I had been using.

Benjamin Hill · June 17th, 2007, 09:25 PM

DVD-Rs as well here, 2 per 8GB card stored in a dual-disc jewel case. The inconvenience of splitting across 2 discs is offset by the savings in media cost vs. double-layer discs. Works for the time being...

Jonathan Porter · June 18th, 2007, 02:26 AM

OK I have to ask, how do you split the footage across 2 DVD's from an 8 gig P2?

JP

Benjamin Hill · June 18th, 2007, 06:51 AM

After transfering the P2 card to an internal or ext. hard drive, I unlock the contents of the VIDEO folder and put half the .MXF files in a separate folder. The CONTENTS and .txt file go on one disc and the folder with the additional video files goes on the second disc. I label them xyz_A and xyz_B and store in a double-disc case.

Jonathan Porter · June 18th, 2007, 03:55 PM

Excellent suggestion Benjamin, is there a reason why you use DVD-R over +R, I was under the impression +R was better for data storage? Also what speed do you burn at? I just downloaded a program called Handy Backup which will let you write across mulitple DVD's at once (leaves a small folder a little like the .TXT file for when you want to reconstruct, I then used the program to rebuild the files to a folder on my firewire enclosure and imported them into Edius Pro without any dramas (used the no compression option). Here's the link if you are interested (I hope it's OK to post links on this forum?) http://www.handybackup.net/download.shtml

At the moment I am investigating a dual HDD e-sata external enclosure with mirroring for security, then just swapping out the drives as they become full. Because I spend up to 6 months at a time on the road in a caravan it's a bit of a pain dragging out a lappy to burn to DVD (I have my faimly with me and space is at a premium) either as I film it or even worse after I have archived to disc after a number of days.

JP

Kevin Railsback · June 18th, 2007, 04:02 PM

Jonathan,

Let us know what HDD e-sata external enclosure you end up getting.

Mark Donnell · June 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM

I also use DVDs to back up my data, but I use the P2 Viewer program to put together roughly 3.5 GB of data onto virtual P2 cards in the computer and then make DVDs of the virtual cards. I choose to use 3.5 GB so that I can combine two of these cards for playback on an 8 GB P2 card if desired. If I didn't need that option, I'd make 4.5 GB virtual P2 cards and then make the DVDs. Also, 500 GB external hard drives are getting very cheap (as low as $ 120, shipped free in the US by Amazon). I archive important material onto at least two of these drives as well.

June 17th, 2007, 11:15 AM	#1
Cengiz Ozgok Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Delfzijl-Netherlands Posts: 33	Archive the footage from P2 card??? I would know how the hvx users archive them capture files from the P2 card. __________________ What they call a movie in Hollywood is nothing more than a reality soap. www.canevisions.nl

June 17th, 2007, 11:48 AM	#2
Jim Exton Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 103	I archive all footage onto dvd, at least two copies of all footage. I also archive the finished product on dvd as well. Again, two copies. __________________ "Four Years", a 35mm short film at http://vimeo.com/3071939 "Anniversary", a short film shot on Red at www.jim-exton.blogspot.com

June 17th, 2007, 11:58 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	With a capacity of only 4 GB, I can't imagine the number of DVDs required to archive a P2 HD project. I think the best method of archiving (as well as the most cost-effective and manageable method) is a tape drive. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....32&postcount=4 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 17th, 2007, 03:15 PM	#4
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Like Jim, I back up all my footage on two DVD copies. __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

June 17th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#6
Benjamin Hill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 670	DVD-Rs as well here, 2 per 8GB card stored in a dual-disc jewel case. The inconvenience of splitting across 2 discs is offset by the savings in media cost vs. double-layer discs. Works for the time being... __________________ youtube.com/benhillmedia linkedin.com/in/benhillmedia

June 17th, 2007, 08:05 PM	#5
Matt Gottshalk Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Posts: 215	I will probably be getting the Quantum DLT-600a. It has gig-e and is MXF aware. The tapes are good for 30 years. Not cheap, but it is a far better (and longer term) solution than FW hard drives, which is what I had been using.

June 18th, 2007, 02:26 AM	#7
Jonathan Porter New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clermont, Queensland, Australia Posts: 15	OK I have to ask, how do you split the footage across 2 DVD's from an 8 gig P2? JP

June 18th, 2007, 06:51 AM	#8
Benjamin Hill Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 670	After transfering the P2 card to an internal or ext. hard drive, I unlock the contents of the VIDEO folder and put half the .MXF files in a separate folder. The CONTENTS and .txt file go on one disc and the folder with the additional video files goes on the second disc. I label them xyz_A and xyz_B and store in a double-disc case. __________________ youtube.com/benhillmedia linkedin.com/in/benhillmedia

June 18th, 2007, 03:55 PM	#9
Jonathan Porter New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clermont, Queensland, Australia Posts: 15	Excellent suggestion Benjamin, is there a reason why you use DVD-R over +R, I was under the impression +R was better for data storage? Also what speed do you burn at? I just downloaded a program called Handy Backup which will let you write across mulitple DVD's at once (leaves a small folder a little like the .TXT file for when you want to reconstruct, I then used the program to rebuild the files to a folder on my firewire enclosure and imported them into Edius Pro without any dramas (used the no compression option). Here's the link if you are interested (I hope it's OK to post links on this forum?) http://www.handybackup.net/download.shtml At the moment I am investigating a dual HDD e-sata external enclosure with mirroring for security, then just swapping out the drives as they become full. Because I spend up to 6 months at a time on the road in a caravan it's a bit of a pain dragging out a lappy to burn to DVD (I have my faimly with me and space is at a premium) either as I film it or even worse after I have archived to disc after a number of days. JP

June 18th, 2007, 04:02 PM	#10
Kevin Railsback Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,544	Jonathan, Let us know what HDD e-sata external enclosure you end up getting. __________________ --==Kevin==-- http:naturephotostudios.com.com

June 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM	#11
Mark Donnell Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Silver City, NM Posts: 385	I also use DVDs to back up my data, but I use the P2 Viewer program to put together roughly 3.5 GB of data onto virtual P2 cards in the computer and then make DVDs of the virtual cards. I choose to use 3.5 GB so that I can combine two of these cards for playback on an 8 GB P2 card if desired. If I didn't need that option, I'd make 4.5 GB virtual P2 cards and then make the DVDs. Also, 500 GB external hard drives are getting very cheap (as low as $ 120, shipped free in the US by Amazon). I archive important material onto at least two of these drives as well.