speed ring questions

Josh Bass · September 26th, 2003, 01:19 AM

Watch as I resurrect this thread. . .

I got the speed ring, and attempted to follow the instructions, using a lowel tota light. Now, I am doing this wrong, or does the Tota light attach to the speed ring via and ONLY via a hexagontal bolt that screws into the speed ring, with the bolt screwing into the Tota where the stud from a light stand normally would, and is locked down the same way? It doesn't seem to be the most stable configuration, but I've used up all the stuff that came with the ring, and this is the only way that makes sense.

Bryan Beasleigh · September 26th, 2003, 10:08 PM

I ground a slot in the brass hex spigot. Any mill file will do the job. Just make a flat indent at the point of the spigot.

Josh Bass · September 26th, 2003, 11:02 PM

Um. . .sorry Bryan I'm not following you. What is the slot for? got any pics or illustrations?

Bryan Beasleigh · September 27th, 2003, 12:25 AM

The tota mounts onto the brass spigot on the speed ring. The set screw is then tightened to secure the tota to the speed ring. The Tota could slip off of the spigot and may not remain in position. I turned the spigot on the adapter plate until a point lined up with the top of the tota's mount. I then took a mill file and made a flat indentation so the set screw could mate with a flat surface. The slot prevents the Tota from turning or slipping off.

Richard Veil · September 27th, 2003, 12:51 AM

did you buy the chimera speedring?

Josh Bass · September 27th, 2003, 04:14 PM

Oh. . .so you actually made an indent in the spigot in the shape of the "set screw" from the tota light, so it would lock into the spigot instead of just jamming up against it. . .?

I turned the spigot till it got tight, which doesn't have it face the way you described, where the vectors line up with those from the tota's mount. . .if I turn it so the vectors line up, then it'd be too loose. Did you use a different washer or something other than the one provided?

No, did not buy the chimera ring, bought the photoflex ring.

Richard Veil · September 27th, 2003, 06:34 PM

This is the deal

on the photoflex ring you have the round connector the light bank rods go into and a C plate a brass stud with flatsides to put the tota on and an umbrella connector that is used to attach the whole thing to the light stand.

Put the flat sided brass stud in that 3/8 hole in the C plate. Mount the Cplate to the Round aluminum connector with the two screws . You should be able to read the writing imprinted on the connector. The Brass mount should be on top of it all.
You turn the Tota mount so it is facing the back of the light and you mount the tota right on top of the connector to the flat sided brass fitting.
Use the umbrella clamp and the brass fitting with the 1/4-20 on one end and a 3/8 on the other to attach the connector to the bank.

attach 1/4 inch screw I=( )

ok hope it helps

the Chimera speed ring is one piece of spun aluminum.. Gosh is it pretty..
anyhow let me know
r

Bryan Beasleigh · September 27th, 2003, 06:36 PM

Josh
Yes that's exactly how it works.
Very gently tighten the spigot, it will turn the required fraction of a turn. I used a BFW (overly large wrench). .................................

Actually a 4 or 6" cresent will do, it doesn't take much force at all.

Richard Veil · September 27th, 2003, 06:39 PM

http://www.chimeralighting.com/support/pdf/9510.pdf

Bryan Beasleigh · September 27th, 2003, 06:52 PM

The chimera and photoflex are very similar, both are aluminum frames. I suppose they would also be interchangeable. I've had absolutely no trouible with the photoflex after my modification. It is irritating they they haven't listened to such a trivial detail. I called and explained the problems I had encountered and detailed my fix. I guess it fell on deaf ears.

Richard Veil · September 27th, 2003, 07:04 PM

and am now very happy at Chimera.

There are lots of detail differnces in the two companies products but I am always glad to help.

Peace and long live Tiawan and Korea..

Chimera.... = GO USA!!!!

Bryan Beasleigh · September 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM

There is a $50 difference between the two and the construction is pretty well equal. The detail I mentioned wasn't worth the extra $50 . Just because something is made offshore doesn't mean it's poor quality. Work ethics and the associated quality, in the US and Canada are not what they should be.

I believe there are some speed rings where the reverse is true. (The Chimera is some times cheaper than a specific photoflex or Westcott speed ring)

Chimera is the venerable father of the softboxes though, I will give you that. I'm a manufacturers rep and have been one for 30 years. i've always tried not to slag the competition. Quality and service usually speak for themselves.

Josh Bass · September 27th, 2003, 09:05 PM

Thanks Bryan. . .boys, let's not fight.

BFW! Hah!

September 26th, 2003, 01:19 AM	#16
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Watch as I resurrect this thread. . . I got the speed ring, and attempted to follow the instructions, using a lowel tota light. Now, I am doing this wrong, or does the Tota light attach to the speed ring via and ONLY via a hexagontal bolt that screws into the speed ring, with the bolt screwing into the Tota where the stud from a light stand normally would, and is locked down the same way? It doesn't seem to be the most stable configuration, but I've used up all the stuff that came with the ring, and this is the only way that makes sense. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

September 26th, 2003, 11:02 PM	#18
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Um. . .sorry Bryan I'm not following you. What is the slot for? got any pics or illustrations? __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

September 27th, 2003, 12:51 AM	#20
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	tota connector did you buy the chimera speedring? __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

September 27th, 2003, 04:14 PM	#21
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Oh. . .so you actually made an indent in the spigot in the shape of the "set screw" from the tota light, so it would lock into the spigot instead of just jamming up against it. . .? I turned the spigot till it got tight, which doesn't have it face the way you described, where the vectors line up with those from the tota's mount. . .if I turn it so the vectors line up, then it'd be too loose. Did you use a different washer or something other than the one provided? No, did not buy the chimera ring, bought the photoflex ring. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

September 27th, 2003, 06:34 PM	#22
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	Ok I will forgive you this time for not buying Chimera This is the deal on the photoflex ring you have the round connector the light bank rods go into and a C plate a brass stud with flatsides to put the tota on and an umbrella connector that is used to attach the whole thing to the light stand. Put the flat sided brass stud in that 3/8 hole in the C plate. Mount the Cplate to the Round aluminum connector with the two screws . You should be able to read the writing imprinted on the connector. The Brass mount should be on top of it all. You turn the Tota mount so it is facing the back of the light and you mount the tota right on top of the connector to the flat sided brass fitting. Use the umbrella clamp and the brass fitting with the 1/4-20 on one end and a 3/8 on the other to attach the connector to the bank. attach 1/4 inch screw I=( ) ok hope it helps the Chimera speed ring is one piece of spun aluminum.. Gosh is it pretty.. anyhow let me know r __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

September 26th, 2003, 10:08 PM	#17
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	I ground a slot in the brass hex spigot. Any mill file will do the job. Just make a flat indent at the point of the spigot.

September 27th, 2003, 12:25 AM	#19
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	The tota mounts onto the brass spigot on the speed ring. The set screw is then tightened to secure the tota to the speed ring. The Tota could slip off of the spigot and may not remain in position. I turned the spigot on the adapter plate until a point lined up with the top of the tota's mount. I then took a mill file and made a flat indentation so the set screw could mate with a flat surface. The slot prevents the Tota from turning or slipping off.

September 27th, 2003, 06:36 PM	#23
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Josh Yes that's exactly how it works. Very gently tighten the spigot, it will turn the required fraction of a turn. I used a BFW (overly large wrench). ................................. Actually a 4 or 6" cresent will do, it doesn't take much force at all.

September 27th, 2003, 06:39 PM	#24
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	go to this link to help visualize tota connector use http://www.chimeralighting.com/support/pdf/9510.pdf __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

September 27th, 2003, 06:52 PM	#25
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	The chimera and photoflex are very similar, both are aluminum frames. I suppose they would also be interchangeable. I've had absolutely no trouible with the photoflex after my modification. It is irritating they they haven't listened to such a trivial detail. I called and explained the problems I had encountered and detailed my fix. I guess it fell on deaf ears.

September 27th, 2003, 07:04 PM	#26
Richard Veil Chimera Lighting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Santa Cruz CA Posts: 293	Just one more reason I no longer work for Photoflex and am now very happy at Chimera. There are lots of detail differnces in the two companies products but I am always glad to help. Peace and long live Tiawan and Korea.. Chimera.... = GO USA!!!! __________________ Strength and Honor RLV

September 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM	#27
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	There is a $50 difference between the two and the construction is pretty well equal. The detail I mentioned wasn't worth the extra $50 . Just because something is made offshore doesn't mean it's poor quality. Work ethics and the associated quality, in the US and Canada are not what they should be. I believe there are some speed rings where the reverse is true. (The Chimera is some times cheaper than a specific photoflex or Westcott speed ring) Chimera is the venerable father of the softboxes though, I will give you that. I'm a manufacturers rep and have been one for 30 years. i've always tried not to slag the competition. Quality and service usually speak for themselves.

September 27th, 2003, 09:05 PM	#28
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Thanks Bryan. . .boys, let's not fight. BFW! Hah! __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

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