Private Classifieds listings from 2007

Aaron Ferguson · February 25th, 2007, 09:44 AM

Would anyone be interested in the AG-DV2500 for $750?

Richard Alvarez · February 25th, 2007, 09:53 AM

Chris,

Last week, I stood in our garage and my mind boggled at the ammount of 'wasted space' consumed by boxes. Yes, some can be folded flat, but it dawned on me, that in today's electronic consumer society, when the instructions literally say "KEEP THE BOX FOR RETURN SHIPPING", that everything we buy - actually EXPANDS after purchase! Think of it. You buy a box that's maybe 2x3x4, and you take the device out. Maybe you have to ASSEMBLE the device, so IT expands. Bingo, double the volume has been consumed. And styrofoam packing inserts are virtual carnivores of closet space.

Sigh.

Chris Hurd · February 25th, 2007, 10:15 AM

Richard -- it's diabolical, isn't it? I need a new storage shed!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau

Seller asked me to cover quicker shipping which I agreed to do at my cost but I couldn't include the box as it would have incresed shipping too much.

There's your answer, Patrick -- if I were you, I'd explain that to the buyer. He asked for quicker shipping, you paid for that and he didn't. The box was sacrificed as a result. I don't see a problem unless the buyer thinks he is entitled to something for nothing.

Canon USA can probably provide a box. Worth a call to find out anyway.

Patrick Moreau · February 25th, 2007, 10:37 AM

I did explain the issue to the buyer. He has now made a claim with paypal and all the funds are on hold- so I really need to find a box.

Jacob Mothersbaugh · February 25th, 2007, 11:06 AM

is it bayonet or thread mount and is it 72mm? would it fit onto the xh-a1?

Bill Hamell · February 25th, 2007, 11:47 AM

Charles,

I sent you an email.

Bill

Henry Cho · February 25th, 2007, 12:18 PM

no longer looking. thanks!

David Saraceno · February 25th, 2007, 12:27 PM

Only the 3251 sticks are left.

Used less than a dozen times.

In perfect shape.

$225.00 plus shipping Paypal confirmed address.

pixelcraft at comcast.net

Patrick Moreau · February 25th, 2007, 12:58 PM

Sorry, both lenses are sold and I forgot to update the listing.

Min Lee · February 25th, 2007, 01:01 PM

What's your email? I have a cavision follow focus.
http://www.evsonline.com/merchant2/m...ct_Code=RFF15B

Make me an offer. mindlee at gmail dot com

David Saraceno · February 25th, 2007, 01:04 PM

Did you say that it came with the box?

That's wild.

Patrick Moreau · February 25th, 2007, 01:08 PM

The original auction came with the box and free shipping via a standard method. He wanted 2 day UPS international shipping, which I said I would do, but no box as that would cost me too much. He got the package and then complained about the box, and now is filing a claim. I have since moved and gotten rid of the box so I'm scrambling to find something.

Ash Greyson · February 25th, 2007, 01:21 PM

Do you have any correspondence where you told him the shipping upgrade would cost him the box? If you sent with tracking, he will lose his claim. Paypal does not promise condition, only delivery.

Offer him $50, which is silly, but likely easier than the hassle and more shipping costs.

ash =o)

Patrick Moreau · February 25th, 2007, 01:24 PM

No correspondence in writing about the trade off, that part was done over the phone. Good news is that it was sent by UPS so I do have the tracking info and entered that into the paypal claim. I would of course prefer ot settle this with him as I hate the thought that they might issue a refund or something over a box. They already have my account on hold because of this. I did offer him money back for the box, but he won't respond, he just says he wants the box, so thats what Im trying to find now...

Chris Hurd · February 25th, 2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau

The original auction came with the box and free shipping via a standard method. He wanted 2 day UPS international shipping, which I said I would do, but no box as that would cost me too much. He got the package and then complained about the box, and now is filing a claim.

Ridiculous -- clearly he does not have a leg to stand on with that claim. I think you can win your case with PayPal, if you carefully explain to them what has happened. He received the camera, he enjoyed expedited shipping at your cost, not his. There's no validity to his claim and I think PayPal will see it your way. Especially since the UPS tracking number proves delivery, as Ash explained above.

But you can try Canon USA on Monday to see if they can get a box for you.

February 25th, 2007, 11:47 AM	#921
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Charles, I sent you an email. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

February 25th, 2007, 09:44 AM	#916
Aaron Ferguson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lima, OH Posts: 55	Would anyone be interested in the AG-DV2500 for $750?

February 25th, 2007, 09:53 AM	#917
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Chris, Last week, I stood in our garage and my mind boggled at the ammount of 'wasted space' consumed by boxes. Yes, some can be folded flat, but it dawned on me, that in today's electronic consumer society, when the instructions literally say "KEEP THE BOX FOR RETURN SHIPPING", that everything we buy - actually EXPANDS after purchase! Think of it. You buy a box that's maybe 2x3x4, and you take the device out. Maybe you have to ASSEMBLE the device, so IT expands. Bingo, double the volume has been consumed. And styrofoam packing inserts are virtual carnivores of closet space. Sigh.

February 25th, 2007, 10:37 AM	#919
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	I did explain the issue to the buyer. He has now made a claim with paypal and all the funds are on hold- so I really need to find a box.

February 25th, 2007, 11:06 AM	#920
Jacob Mothersbaugh New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 14	is it bayonet or thread mount and is it 72mm? would it fit onto the xh-a1?

February 25th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#922
Henry Cho Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 516	no longer looking. thanks!

February 25th, 2007, 12:27 PM	#923
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	Only the 3251 sticks are left. Used less than a dozen times. In perfect shape. $225.00 plus shipping Paypal confirmed address. pixelcraft at comcast.net

February 25th, 2007, 12:58 PM	#924
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	Sorry, both lenses are sold and I forgot to update the listing.

February 25th, 2007, 01:01 PM	#925
Min Lee Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 200	What's your email? I have a cavision follow focus. http://www.evsonline.com/merchant2/m...ct_Code=RFF15B Make me an offer. mindlee at gmail dot com

February 25th, 2007, 01:04 PM	#926
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	Did you say that it came with the box? That's wild.

February 25th, 2007, 01:08 PM	#927
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	The original auction came with the box and free shipping via a standard method. He wanted 2 day UPS international shipping, which I said I would do, but no box as that would cost me too much. He got the package and then complained about the box, and now is filing a claim. I have since moved and gotten rid of the box so I'm scrambling to find something.

February 25th, 2007, 01:21 PM	#928
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Do you have any correspondence where you told him the shipping upgrade would cost him the box? If you sent with tracking, he will lose his claim. Paypal does not promise condition, only delivery. Offer him $50, which is silly, but likely easier than the hassle and more shipping costs. ash =o)

February 25th, 2007, 01:24 PM	#929
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	No correspondence in writing about the trade off, that part was done over the phone. Good news is that it was sent by UPS so I do have the tracking info and entered that into the paypal claim. I would of course prefer ot settle this with him as I hate the thought that they might issue a refund or something over a box. They already have my account on hold because of this. I did offer him money back for the box, but he won't respond, he just says he wants the box, so thats what Im trying to find now...