feature film teaser shot on dvx1000

Clark Kline · January 8th, 2004, 01:15 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Christian Hede Madsen : Hi!

I just saw the trailer and I was blown away buy it...

It has a fantastic mood and the editing is very good...

I am looking forward to see your film...You guys let us know when it is ready, right?

I live in Denmark and I can see that your film( and some of the others that i`ve seen on the net) is different that the ones we see in Denmark. But I like it alot...

VERY good job... -->>>

thanks for the comments! we just uploaded a few more pics from the film, and hope to have a new teaser up by the end of january. getting my protools system set up today.

little offtopic-
name some of your fave movies that end up making it to denmark?

Don Donatello · January 8th, 2004, 11:11 PM

viewed the longer version ( 1:40)
all the shots are composed excellent.
light used excellent in the shots ( excellent moods)
music very mood setting ..
actors look good ..
i found all the individual elements better then the whole ( trailer).
in the end i felt it was a slide show.
i can't remember what it's about but i do remeber it had very good photo images.

look foward to seeing more clips from it ...

Clark Kline · January 9th, 2004, 01:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Don Donatello : viewed the longer version ( 1:40)
all the shots are composed excellent.
light used excellent in the shots ( excellent moods)
music very mood setting ..
actors look good ..
i found all the individual elements better then the whole ( trailer).
in the end i felt it was a slide show.
i can't remember what it's about but i do remeber it had very good photo images.

look foward to seeing more clips from it ... -->>>

Thanks for the comments. We've had some pretty interesting emails about what people think the movie is about. My favorite idea someone sent was serial killing girlscouts.

the next teaser will give people a much better idea of what it's about.

Christian Hede Madsen · January 11th, 2004, 02:07 PM

I have a hard time with the expression "favourite film", becase I like so many...

And really my taste in films is very broad... I like big-hollywood films like Braveheart and Gladiator and smaller films like: Tape, El mariachi, Bad Taste, Evil Dead, Spun, run Lola run and many many many more...(and then I am a big documentary fan too)

Clark Kline · January 19th, 2004, 04:24 PM

listed a bunch of my faves. i've always wondered what was readily available to people in other countries, because in America we only get a small selection of "foreign" films. Indian films for one, we get only a handful even though they produce on average more than hollywood in any given year. good to know some smaller films like "tape" find their way to other countries.

<<<-- Originally posted by Christian Hede Madsen : I have a hard time with the expression "favourite film", becase I like so many...

And really my taste in films is very broad... I like big-hollywood films like Braveheart and Gladiator and smaller films like: Tape, El mariachi, Bad Taste, Evil Dead, Spun, run Lola run and many many many more...(and then I am a big documentary fan too) -->>>

Peter John Ross · January 20th, 2004, 08:54 AM

Great shots. Very well lit and exposed.

The story looks interesting, but little or none of it is reealed in the teaser. I guess that's why they call it a teaser.

Clark Kline · January 29th, 2004, 01:39 PM

thanks much!
we're very close to our new trailer. gonna turn it over to our composer in the next week. lots more screengrabs up too.

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter John Ross : Great shots. Very well lit and exposed.

The story looks interesting, but little or none of it is reealed in the teaser. I guess that's why they call it a teaser. -->>>

Clark Kline · March 23rd, 2004, 01:36 PM

we posted teaser c at www.foolmartyr.com

Dylan Couper · March 23rd, 2004, 07:26 PM

Hi,
Nice trailer, but I have some constructive criticism for you, which should fix a few small issues. In your editing of the trailer, (I only watched the long one) many of the cuts come very abruptly, and it distracts from the flow of the trailer. I think the first one was right before the first line of text. picture... pircture... picture... BAM-BLACK!... Text... Thats the effect it had on me. Very distracting. I suggest changing these to a dissolve/fade. That should allow some smoother flow.
My other main criticism is it looks like you have used three different types of cameras to shoot this. It's somewhat distracting while watching the trailer. Some shots are crisp, some are over saturated, some are very soft. I suggest some extensive colour correction to balance them a better.

I like your photography very much, but the trailer didn't really tell what the movie was about, which is the whole point of the trailer.

Thats it. Nothing you can't fix with a little extra computer time. Otherwise, very nice!

Clark Kline · March 26th, 2004, 11:40 AM

All good criticism. I'm not a big fan of video fades, and we havent gotten the tools to simulate film fades yet but I plan to by the finished cut. And I agree about the color correction- part of it is because I am still learning it right now. But most of it is because there is essentially 3-4 styles of looks in the film itself, While we only filmed with one camera- we gave each story specific looks via lenses/filters/set colors etc, and couple that with some drastic corrected stuff and it's pretty jarring in the teaser.

By the time I post the full on trailer, I'll make sure it's much more consistent- thanks!

As far as the story- basically this teaser is putting a little of the story out there (having guarded it this far...we're only trickling it out). And honestly I'm a huge fan of teasers that are just that... The coming trailer will give more of a sense of the plot with dialogue etc...

clark

Clark Kline · April 9th, 2004, 10:24 AM

we just posted new screencaps and pics at www.foolmartyr.com.
check out the newly updated stills page as well as behind the scenes pics.

Travis Cossel · April 9th, 2004, 11:27 AM

After having watched the teaser, this is what struck me the most: it seems disjointed. Now I know you don't want to give your story away, but while I was watching it, I felt like I was watching a collection of scenes from different movies. Even if you don't want to release information on the story, there needs to be some connection in the clips. Just my opinion.

Clark Kline · April 9th, 2004, 12:11 PM

thanks for the input.

we seem to get two responses. many like the ambiguity, others want more. but that's why we're still calling it a teaser even though it's 2 minutes...cause we still dont feel like it's a typical trailer. the trailer will feel much more complete.

<<<-- Originally posted by Travis Cossel : After having watched the teaser, this is what struck me the most: it seems disjointed. Now I know you don't want to give your story away, but while I was watching it, I felt like I was watching a collection of scenes from different movies. Even if you don't want to release information on the story, there needs to be some connection in the clips. Just my opinion. -->>>

Travis Cossel · April 9th, 2004, 01:31 PM

Well, I like ambiguity. I just feel that if your teaser is too ambiguous (obviously that's subjective) then I'll just forget all about it. I'm not going to log it into my memory as "I want to see that", because I haven't a clue as to what it is about. I can't even tell if it's a thriller, a drama, a comedy or whatever. If I had seen that on TV last night, I wouldn't ever think twice about it. It just doesn't deliver enough to me to make a connection with me.

Hope that makes sense.

Clark Kline · April 12th, 2004, 11:31 AM

makes sense. i hope through the music we got the genre across and although it may not seem it, the images do back up the text, although the text is pretty vague. I know if something is too ambiguous it may not hook you, and that's what a teaser is all about.: hooking.

thanks for taking the time to watch and give us input!

<<<-- Originally posted by Travis Cossel : Well, I like ambiguity. I just feel that if your teaser is too ambiguous (obviously that's subjective) then I'll just forget all about it. I'm not going to log it into my memory as "I want to see that", because I haven't a clue as to what it is about. I can't even tell if it's a thriller, a drama, a comedy or whatever. If I had seen that on TV last night, I wouldn't ever think twice about it. It just doesn't deliver enough to me to make a connection with me.

Hope that makes sense. -->>>

March 23rd, 2004, 07:26 PM	#24
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Hi, Nice trailer, but I have some constructive criticism for you, which should fix a few small issues. In your editing of the trailer, (I only watched the long one) many of the cuts come very abruptly, and it distracts from the flow of the trailer. I think the first one was right before the first line of text. picture... pircture... picture... BAM-BLACK!... Text... Thats the effect it had on me. Very distracting. I suggest changing these to a dissolve/fade. That should allow some smoother flow. My other main criticism is it looks like you have used three different types of cameras to shoot this. It's somewhat distracting while watching the trailer. Some shots are crisp, some are over saturated, some are very soft. I suggest some extensive colour correction to balance them a better. I like your photography very much, but the trailer didn't really tell what the movie was about, which is the whole point of the trailer. Thats it. Nothing you can't fix with a little extra computer time. Otherwise, very nice! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 9th, 2004, 11:27 AM	#27
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	After having watched the teaser, this is what struck me the most: it seems disjointed. Now I know you don't want to give your story away, but while I was watching it, I felt like I was watching a collection of scenes from different movies. Even if you don't want to release information on the story, there needs to be some connection in the clips. Just my opinion. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

April 9th, 2004, 01:31 PM	#29
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Well, I like ambiguity. I just feel that if your teaser is too ambiguous (obviously that's subjective) then I'll just forget all about it. I'm not going to log it into my memory as "I want to see that", because I haven't a clue as to what it is about. I can't even tell if it's a thriller, a drama, a comedy or whatever. If I had seen that on TV last night, I wouldn't ever think twice about it. It just doesn't deliver enough to me to make a connection with me. Hope that makes sense. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

January 8th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#16
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	<<<-- Originally posted by Christian Hede Madsen : Hi! I just saw the trailer and I was blown away buy it... It has a fantastic mood and the editing is very good... I am looking forward to see your film...You guys let us know when it is ready, right? I live in Denmark and I can see that your film( and some of the others that i`ve seen on the net) is different that the ones we see in Denmark. But I like it alot... VERY good job... -->>> thanks for the comments! we just uploaded a few more pics from the film, and hope to have a new teaser up by the end of january. getting my protools system set up today. little offtopic- name some of your fave movies that end up making it to denmark?

January 8th, 2004, 11:11 PM	#17
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	viewed the longer version ( 1:40) all the shots are composed excellent. light used excellent in the shots ( excellent moods) music very mood setting .. actors look good .. i found all the individual elements better then the whole ( trailer). in the end i felt it was a slide show. i can't remember what it's about but i do remeber it had very good photo images. look foward to seeing more clips from it ...

January 9th, 2004, 01:45 PM	#18
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	<<<-- Originally posted by Don Donatello : viewed the longer version ( 1:40) all the shots are composed excellent. light used excellent in the shots ( excellent moods) music very mood setting .. actors look good .. i found all the individual elements better then the whole ( trailer). in the end i felt it was a slide show. i can't remember what it's about but i do remeber it had very good photo images. look foward to seeing more clips from it ... -->>> Thanks for the comments. We've had some pretty interesting emails about what people think the movie is about. My favorite idea someone sent was serial killing girlscouts. the next teaser will give people a much better idea of what it's about.

January 11th, 2004, 02:07 PM	#19
Christian Hede Madsen Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gudhjem Denmark Posts: 93	I have a hard time with the expression "favourite film", becase I like so many... And really my taste in films is very broad... I like big-hollywood films like Braveheart and Gladiator and smaller films like: Tape, El mariachi, Bad Taste, Evil Dead, Spun, run Lola run and many many many more...(and then I am a big documentary fan too)

January 19th, 2004, 04:24 PM	#20
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	listed a bunch of my faves. i've always wondered what was readily available to people in other countries, because in America we only get a small selection of "foreign" films. Indian films for one, we get only a handful even though they produce on average more than hollywood in any given year. good to know some smaller films like "tape" find their way to other countries. <<<-- Originally posted by Christian Hede Madsen : I have a hard time with the expression "favourite film", becase I like so many... And really my taste in films is very broad... I like big-hollywood films like Braveheart and Gladiator and smaller films like: Tape, El mariachi, Bad Taste, Evil Dead, Spun, run Lola run and many many many more...(and then I am a big documentary fan too) -->>>

January 20th, 2004, 08:54 AM	#21
Peter John Ross Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, OHIO Posts: 149	Great shots. Very well lit and exposed. The story looks interesting, but little or none of it is reealed in the teaser. I guess that's why they call it a teaser.

January 29th, 2004, 01:39 PM	#22
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	thanks much! we're very close to our new trailer. gonna turn it over to our composer in the next week. lots more screengrabs up too. <<<-- Originally posted by Peter John Ross : Great shots. Very well lit and exposed. The story looks interesting, but little or none of it is reealed in the teaser. I guess that's why they call it a teaser. -->>>

March 23rd, 2004, 01:36 PM	#23
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	we posted teaser c at www.foolmartyr.com

March 26th, 2004, 11:40 AM	#25
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	All good criticism. I'm not a big fan of video fades, and we havent gotten the tools to simulate film fades yet but I plan to by the finished cut. And I agree about the color correction- part of it is because I am still learning it right now. But most of it is because there is essentially 3-4 styles of looks in the film itself, While we only filmed with one camera- we gave each story specific looks via lenses/filters/set colors etc, and couple that with some drastic corrected stuff and it's pretty jarring in the teaser. By the time I post the full on trailer, I'll make sure it's much more consistent- thanks! As far as the story- basically this teaser is putting a little of the story out there (having guarded it this far...we're only trickling it out). And honestly I'm a huge fan of teasers that are just that... The coming trailer will give more of a sense of the plot with dialogue etc... clark

April 9th, 2004, 10:24 AM	#26
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	we just posted new screencaps and pics at www.foolmartyr.com. check out the newly updated stills page as well as behind the scenes pics.

April 9th, 2004, 12:11 PM	#28
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	thanks for the input. we seem to get two responses. many like the ambiguity, others want more. but that's why we're still calling it a teaser even though it's 2 minutes...cause we still dont feel like it's a typical trailer. the trailer will feel much more complete. <<<-- Originally posted by Travis Cossel : After having watched the teaser, this is what struck me the most: it seems disjointed. Now I know you don't want to give your story away, but while I was watching it, I felt like I was watching a collection of scenes from different movies. Even if you don't want to release information on the story, there needs to be some connection in the clips. Just my opinion. -->>>

April 12th, 2004, 11:31 AM	#30
Clark Kline Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 44	makes sense. i hope through the music we got the genre across and although it may not seem it, the images do back up the text, although the text is pretty vague. I know if something is too ambiguous it may not hook you, and that's what a teaser is all about.: hooking. thanks for taking the time to watch and give us input! <<<-- Originally posted by Travis Cossel : Well, I like ambiguity. I just feel that if your teaser is too ambiguous (obviously that's subjective) then I'll just forget all about it. I'm not going to log it into my memory as "I want to see that", because I haven't a clue as to what it is about. I can't even tell if it's a thriller, a drama, a comedy or whatever. If I had seen that on TV last night, I wouldn't ever think twice about it. It just doesn't deliver enough to me to make a connection with me. Hope that makes sense. -->>>