My new trailer

Jose di Cani · December 5th, 2004, 06:45 PM

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...creen_mode.htm

check this site out for more info about letterboxing and things. You can betetr record in 4:3 and do the thing in post. Just keep in mind when filming that you will loose the upper and lower part of your image. Just check the viewfinder of your cam or set it in the menu. It's the best and simplest solution.

The trailer looks all right. But I can see in some scenes the slowness and VHS-style camera handling. In the scene the man tries to hit the other man, that action is way to slow. And I miss lots of audio effects in the movie. WHy not include them in the trailer as well. That will improve and atrracts the audience. A background music is not enough for action movies. And well, I don't see any original in the movie that catches my interest reallyt. It looks like all the rest action movies. Some fighting scenes look promising. TRy to add some film effects to it (hue, colour, black/white gradients etc) in adobe premier or vegas.

peace

John Hudson · December 6th, 2004, 11:50 PM

I got a good laugh at that IGN Board; very obvious they must be 12 or 13.

This trailer looks supercool (I had laready caught this over at dvxuser.com). My first impression was revenge as well. Very impressive compositions and editing. With a GL1 no less. This only serves to say "Its the man behind the camera.....". Still, get this man an XL2 or DVX100!

Very nice job.

My only .02 is to possibly insert other action scenes along with the 'forest' scenes. It seems there were alot of those clips and maybe some other 'looks' will give it an even greater scope. The music I felt could be more cinematic (I know; what does that mean; its subjective anyway).

Otherwise. Bravo! Very inspiring!

Steve Tapping · December 7th, 2004, 08:19 AM

Really enjoyed the trailer, looked great from an XM1.
Sounded like the people from IGN were the nerdy mtv kids that would just follow everyone if something sounded cool.
You can't really take much constructive points from that younger generation from that board but I think it is important to listen to kids / teenagers. Just finishing school myself last year, I am now studying film at Uni and I appreciate all types of cinema however just wiping these negative comments off because they are kids is not wise. Children/Teenagers are at the cinemas a heap and are a major source of filmmakers income, mainly hollywood. The problem was people of that age expect hollywood effects because that is what they are used to when they go see a movie at there local cinema. They are not film buffs they just want to go see the latest movie that is advertised. So please don't take any notice of those negative comments and please don't think negative of all young people's opinions.
A bit off track.. but I feel the point needed to be made and I was amazed at the XM1's capabilities when used at it's full potential.

Mathieu Ghekiere · December 7th, 2004, 10:19 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Andrew Grix : Wow Simon, I am highly impressed.

I never would have guessed that was shot with a GL2.
Magic Bullet and good lighting work wonders.

That is some of the best film-like video I've seen done with the GL2. You pushed that to the max.

I think it looks great and I would love to see what you could do w/ an XL2 or DVX-100a and a P+S Technik Mini35 adapter. -->>>

Andrew: He shot it not with the GL2 but with the GL1! Yep, even more impressive :-p

Andrew Grix · December 7th, 2004, 02:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Mathieu Ghekiere : <<<-- Originally posted by Andrew Grix : Wow Simon, I am highly impressed.

I never would have guessed that was shot with a GL2.
Magic Bullet and good lighting work wonders.

That is some of the best film-like video I've seen done with the GL2. You pushed that to the max.

I think it looks great and I would love to see what you could do w/ an XL2 or DVX-100a and a P+S Technik Mini35 adapter. -->>>

Andrew: He shot it not with the GL2 but with the GL1! Yep, even more impressive :-p -->>>

OOPS. My mistake. Even more credit to Simon.

Simon Wyndham · December 10th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Thanks once again guys!

Often it does boil down to what you can do to work around the limitations of the camera.

Now if only the finance people would hurry up and give me my loan for the 2/3" camera!

Ashton Robinson · December 16th, 2004, 07:42 AM

How do you retain so much quality yet keep the file size so small?

Sameer Puri · December 21st, 2004, 05:54 PM

Hi Simon,

Great work using an XM1! I’m currently in pre-production stages for a film that I intend to shoot in India next October. I’ll be using an XL2 with ps technik 35mm adapter. Your trailer suggests that dv, with correct tweaking, can certainly achieve a film look. Somehow this look is stronger in the outdoor scenes (particularly the forest) than it is in indoors. But that seems to be common to dv shoots, albeit a generalisation.

Good stuff! Do post when you sell your film.

cheers
Sameer

December 5th, 2004, 06:45 PM	#31
Jose di Cani Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, Europe Posts: 214	http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...creen_mode.htm check this site out for more info about letterboxing and things. You can betetr record in 4:3 and do the thing in post. Just keep in mind when filming that you will loose the upper and lower part of your image. Just check the viewfinder of your cam or set it in the menu. It's the best and simplest solution. The trailer looks all right. But I can see in some scenes the slowness and VHS-style camera handling. In the scene the man tries to hit the other man, that action is way to slow. And I miss lots of audio effects in the movie. WHy not include them in the trailer as well. That will improve and atrracts the audience. A background music is not enough for action movies. And well, I don't see any original in the movie that catches my interest reallyt. It looks like all the rest action movies. Some fighting scenes look promising. TRy to add some film effects to it (hue, colour, black/white gradients etc) in adobe premier or vegas. peace

December 6th, 2004, 11:50 PM	#32
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	I got a good laugh at that IGN Board; very obvious they must be 12 or 13. This trailer looks supercool (I had laready caught this over at dvxuser.com). My first impression was revenge as well. Very impressive compositions and editing. With a GL1 no less. This only serves to say "Its the man behind the camera.....". Still, get this man an XL2 or DVX100! Very nice job. My only .02 is to possibly insert other action scenes along with the 'forest' scenes. It seems there were alot of those clips and maybe some other 'looks' will give it an even greater scope. The music I felt could be more cinematic (I know; what does that mean; its subjective anyway). Otherwise. Bravo! Very inspiring!

December 7th, 2004, 08:19 AM	#33
Steve Tapping Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Australia WA Posts: 41	Really enjoyed the trailer, looked great from an XM1. Sounded like the people from IGN were the nerdy mtv kids that would just follow everyone if something sounded cool. You can't really take much constructive points from that younger generation from that board but I think it is important to listen to kids / teenagers. Just finishing school myself last year, I am now studying film at Uni and I appreciate all types of cinema however just wiping these negative comments off because they are kids is not wise. Children/Teenagers are at the cinemas a heap and are a major source of filmmakers income, mainly hollywood. The problem was people of that age expect hollywood effects because that is what they are used to when they go see a movie at there local cinema. They are not film buffs they just want to go see the latest movie that is advertised. So please don't take any notice of those negative comments and please don't think negative of all young people's opinions. A bit off track.. but I feel the point needed to be made and I was amazed at the XM1's capabilities when used at it's full potential.

December 7th, 2004, 10:19 AM	#34
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	<<<-- Originally posted by Andrew Grix : Wow Simon, I am highly impressed. I never would have guessed that was shot with a GL2. Magic Bullet and good lighting work wonders. That is some of the best film-like video I've seen done with the GL2. You pushed that to the max. I think it looks great and I would love to see what you could do w/ an XL2 or DVX-100a and a P+S Technik Mini35 adapter. -->>> Andrew: He shot it not with the GL2 but with the GL1! Yep, even more impressive :-p

December 7th, 2004, 02:06 PM	#35
Andrew Grix New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 5	<<<-- Originally posted by Mathieu Ghekiere : <<<-- Originally posted by Andrew Grix : Wow Simon, I am highly impressed. I never would have guessed that was shot with a GL2. Magic Bullet and good lighting work wonders. That is some of the best film-like video I've seen done with the GL2. You pushed that to the max. I think it looks great and I would love to see what you could do w/ an XL2 or DVX-100a and a P+S Technik Mini35 adapter. -->>> Andrew: He shot it not with the GL2 but with the GL1! Yep, even more impressive :-p -->>> OOPS. My mistake. Even more credit to Simon.

December 10th, 2004, 12:40 PM	#36
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Thanks once again guys! Often it does boil down to what you can do to work around the limitations of the camera. Now if only the finance people would hurry up and give me my loan for the 2/3" camera!

December 16th, 2004, 07:42 AM	#37
Ashton Robinson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: sl'Ohio Posts: 17	How do you retain so much quality yet keep the file size so small?

December 21st, 2004, 05:54 PM	#38
Sameer Puri Tourist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London Posts: 4	Hi Simon, Great work using an XM1! I’m currently in pre-production stages for a film that I intend to shoot in India next October. I’ll be using an XL2 with ps technik 35mm adapter. Your trailer suggests that dv, with correct tweaking, can certainly achieve a film look. Somehow this look is stronger in the outdoor scenes (particularly the forest) than it is in indoors. But that seems to be common to dv shoots, albeit a generalisation. Good stuff! Do post when you sell your film. cheers Sameer