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Brock Burwell April 20th, 2018 09:41 AM

Maria - University of Charleston
 
I put this short little video together to help international students feel comfortable coming to our university. It is a story about a girl from Mexico coming here while knowing almost no English .

Constructive criticism welcomed


Gary Huff April 22nd, 2018 10:06 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
You crossed the line with your second camera in the interview setup, and it looks really odd.

I wouldn't have shown her in slow motion about to shove a fry in her mouth. Also, why so much headroom in that shot? There's nothing interesting back there.

Brock Burwell April 23rd, 2018 06:52 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
What do you mean, "crossed the line?"

Chris Hurd April 23rd, 2018 07:48 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Crossed the 90 degree axis? I didn't notice it.

The "french fry" thing is such a quick shot that I think it's no big deal.

Hope you get some traction out of this piece.

Gary Huff April 23rd, 2018 08:54 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd (Post 1943289)
Crossed the 90 degree axis? I didn't notice it.

"180° rule is a cinematography guideline that states that two characters in a scene should maintain the same left/right relationship to one another." - Wikipedia.

Your main shot has the interviewee looking towards camera left. Your second camera angle on slider has her looking camera right.

I would have demonstrated with screencaps, but I cannot add attachments for some reason.

Also, the two cameras don't match color-wise.

Greg Boston April 24th, 2018 03:31 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
The 180 rule Gary refers to is also a staple of sports broadcasting, such that the viewer can orient themselves to the direction of play on the field. That view is only broken with reverse angle shots or instant replay but is labeled as such while being shown. The main cameras following the action will always be from the same side of the field, however.

It’s really all about giving the viewer a point of reference as to what is right and left.

Regards,

-gb-

Duane Adam April 24th, 2018 05:07 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
I thought it was nicely assembled. Not a fan of multiple angles for interviews but in this case it wasn't overbearing.

Seems there are many good videos that aren't getting seen and when I watched this one it only had 126 views and probably most came from this site. If anyone knows an internet wizard who can increase distribution I'd like to meet them.

Gary Huff April 24th, 2018 05:47 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duane Adam (Post 1943337)
If anyone knows an internet wizard who can increase distribution I'd like to meet them.

Yes, it's called marketing and involves spending money.

Gary Huff April 24th, 2018 05:48 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Boston (Post 1943335)
The 180 rule Gary refers to is also a staple of sports broadcasting, such that the viewer can orient themselves to the direction of play on the field.

No, the 180 rule is also common in narrative as well, which would include commercial. You break it for specific circumstances, and this doesn't feel like it was broken out of intent.

Brock Burwell April 26th, 2018 08:45 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duane Adam (Post 1943337)
I thought it was nicely assembled. Not a fan of multiple angles for interviews but in this case it wasn't overbearing.

Seems there are many good videos that aren't getting seen and when I watched this one it only had 126 views and probably most came from this site. If anyone knows an internet wizard who can increase distribution I'd like to meet them.

Yea we actually didn't push this out via YouTube. Instead we uploaded it straight to Facebook. We ended up getting 1.7k views on facebook, but I think they inflate that number so actual views are probably much lower than that.

Brock Burwell April 26th, 2018 08:46 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff (Post 1943293)
"180° rule is a cinematography guideline that states that two characters in a scene should maintain the same left/right relationship to one another." - Wikipedia.

Your main shot has the interviewee looking towards camera left. Your second camera angle on slider has her looking camera right.

I would have demonstrated with screencaps, but I cannot add attachments for some reason.

Also, the two cameras don't match color-wise.

I'll keep that in mind for future projects! Thanks!

Yea I struggled matching the two cameras. One camera is a GH5 and the other is a 5DMarkIV. I tried shooting really really flat on the GH5 this time and I struggled to get it to look similar to the 5D. Maybe next time.

Gary Huff April 26th, 2018 09:32 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock Burwell (Post 1943385)
Yea I struggled matching the two cameras. One camera is a GH5 and the other is a 5DMarkIV. I tried shooting really really flat on the GH5 this time and I struggled to get it to look similar to the 5D. Maybe next time.

Did you film in Vlog? There is no point on trying to flatten the other profiles. You're literally removing saturation and contrast only to add it right back in in post. Best to give it as much of a neutral feel as possible.

When I had my GH5, I would try to match it to my C300 Mark II. This required hue transforms, especially in reds and oranges. That's the starting place.

Brock Burwell April 26th, 2018 02:06 PM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
While I don't shoot in VLOG, this was my first video shooting in HLG and it was a bit rough to grade. I'm not the best colorist in the world, so since then I've just gone back to shooting cineliked.

Thanks for the suggestions! I'd love to have a C300. One day!

Duane Adam April 27th, 2018 08:49 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock Burwell (Post 1943384)
Yea we actually didn't push this out via YouTube. Instead we uploaded it straight to Facebook. We ended up getting 1.7k views on facebook, but I think they inflate that number so actual views are probably much lower than that.

That's a pretty decent number in 2018. I work for a large company with a dedicated PR department but even when stories or press releases are placed in large publications like the Wall Street Journal or New York Times the web page hits are in the 100's not 1000's. .

Brock Burwell April 27th, 2018 11:37 AM

Re: Maria - University of Charleston
 
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing Duane


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