Finished my 22 minute short film "Red Ribbon". Watch it! at DVinfo.net

Marlon Torres · December 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM

hello, im a fairly new student filmmaker (second semester) and i just finished my second short film entitled "Red Ribbon". It's a romantic tragedy. i would love some feedback. mind you, its just my second short film, be nice :) heres the link

http://www.citizencine.com/films/redribbon.htm

thanks again.

ps: shot with XL2 and edited in premiere pro, effects in after effects for those who care :)

Dain Burroughs · December 12th, 2005, 12:40 PM

Nice flick it kept my attention the whole time. did you use magic bullet for the color.

Tyler Baptist · December 12th, 2005, 01:33 PM

Really good short. It moved along nicely and looked really good. I really like the use of the music.

Marlon Torres · December 12th, 2005, 04:23 PM

i only used magic bullet in one scene, the exterior scene where the ribbon exchanges hands, the rest of it was color corrected in premiere pro

Phil Kay · December 12th, 2005, 05:18 PM

Wow! What a great film. My wife and I just watched it on my ibook in bed and we liked it.....my wife "LOVED" it! Took a while to download,however it was worth it.

Marlon Torres · December 12th, 2005, 05:31 PM

wow, if i can get one person to love it (other than my mom) than its been all worth it, my only goal for the movie was to improve from my first.

Dial Yoshioka · December 12th, 2005, 06:53 PM

Wow, I loved the music in your film. It sounds a lot like the
2046 OST at http://global.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept...music/did-156/

oh, and it also sounds a little like the
In the mood for love OST at http://global.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept...section-music/

Marlon Torres I can't believe you would stuff your "film" with copyrighted music - straight from Wong Kai-Wai OSTs. I mean, come on, you are basically playing the whole soundtrack throughout. I know you tried to credit it at the ending but it doesn't give you the right to use and distribute it. It's disappointing Marlon.

Marlon Torres · December 12th, 2005, 07:24 PM

its a student film i did for fun, im not distributing it or submitting it to any festivals and i never claimed that it was my music

Bryon Akerman · December 12th, 2005, 11:52 PM

Watched it. Loved it.

As for the music.... Didn't bother me. These lovely chaps who get on non-profit student filmmakers for things like this, really need to get out of their editing studios once in a while and remember what it was like to learn the craft and not have EVERYTHING at you fingertips.

Now, if I see this for sale at my localy video store, then shame on you, and i take back my kudos and bravos.

Keep learning, experimenting, and filming. You have a "gift."

Bryon <><

Brian Duke · December 13th, 2005, 12:27 AM

How did you get the 2:35.1 ascpect (Cinemascope)? Watching it now =)

Marlon Torres · December 13th, 2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryon Akerman

Watched it. Loved it.

As for the music.... Didn't bother me. These lovely chaps who get on non-profit student filmmakers for things like this, really need to get out of their editing studios once in a while and remember what it was like to learn the craft and not have EVERYTHING at you fingertips.

Now, if I see this for sale at my localy video store, then shame on you, and i take back my kudos and bravos.

Keep learning, experimenting, and filming. You have a "gift."

Bryon <><

thanks byron, that guy really offended me... he made me feel like a dirty criminal or something, i mean... there are countless student films out there with unlicensed music... anyway, thanks for the kind words

Marlon Torres · December 13th, 2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Duke

How did you get the 2:35.1 ascpect (Cinemascope)? Watching it now =)

did some algebra on the 856x480 ratio and simply added a letterbox and then cropped it in after effects.

Phil Kay · December 13th, 2005, 06:33 AM

Don't let it get you down Marlon (hey,MARLON TORRES, you even sound like a famous director!) I use other peoples music all the time,as long as you aren't selling your stuff then you have nothing to worry about. I think the musician would be proud to hear their music in such a great film.

Marlon Torres · December 13th, 2005, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Kay

Don't let it get you down Marlon (hey,MARLON TORRES, you even sound like a famous director!) I use other peoples music all the time,as long as you aren't selling your stuff then you have nothing to worry about. I think the musician would be proud to hear their music in such a great film.

Thanks Phil, I'm over it... I'm actually pretty proud that my movie could actually "disappoint" someone. Any reaction is better than no reaction.

Joshua Provost · December 13th, 2005, 01:55 PM

Marlon,

I liked the film a lot. I liked the characters, your camera direction, and lighting. I'd say in general it was overly long, just really slow paced. Like most of the film was in slow motion (which I think it was). Also, it's a little offputting to have such a long and elaborate opening credit sequence for such a short film. Better just to get to the point. If this were around 10-12 minutes, it really would have been more effective. Kudos to you for pulling together such an ambitious project, though.

As for using unlicensed music... posting on an Internet discussion board qualifies as "distribution," so technically it was illegal to post it. My rule of thumb if that if the music isn't licensed, don't post it online, even student projects.

As for the thought that any musician would be proud to have his music in the film, I'd say you should really talk to some more musicians. I am one, and I run a record label, and I know for sure we would like to be asked permission first, perhaps compensated a little (your camera wasn't free, why should your music be?), and if we chose not to be involved, to know that you wouldn't use the music without permission.

There's lots of cheap, legal music online. You'd be surprised what you can get for free if you ask for it. And surprised what you can get for $5 over at productiontrax.com, etc.

Josh

December 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM	#1
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Finished my 22 minute short film "Red Ribbon". Watch it! hello, im a fairly new student filmmaker (second semester) and i just finished my second short film entitled "Red Ribbon". It's a romantic tragedy. i would love some feedback. mind you, its just my second short film, be nice :) heres the link http://www.citizencine.com/films/redribbon.htm thanks again. ps: shot with XL2 and edited in premiere pro, effects in after effects for those who care :) Last edited by Marlon Torres; December 11th, 2005 at 12:18 PM.

December 12th, 2005, 01:33 PM	#3
Tyler Baptist Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK Canada Posts: 71	Really good short. It moved along nicely and looked really good. I really like the use of the music. __________________ Tyler Baptist

December 12th, 2005, 05:18 PM	#5
Phil Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Peel,Isle of Man(UK) Posts: 194	flic Wow! What a great film. My wife and I just watched it on my ibook in bed and we liked it.....my wife "LOVED" it! Took a while to download,however it was worth it.

December 12th, 2005, 06:53 PM	#7
Dial Yoshioka New Boot Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 11	Wow, I loved the music in your film. It sounds a lot like the 2046 OST at http://global.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept...music/did-156/ oh, and it also sounds a little like the In the mood for love OST at http://global.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept...section-music/ Marlon Torres I can't believe you would stuff your "film" with copyrighted music - straight from Wong Kai-Wai OSTs. I mean, come on, you are basically playing the whole soundtrack throughout. I know you tried to credit it at the ending but it doesn't give you the right to use and distribute it. It's disappointing Marlon. __________________ dial Last edited by Dial Yoshioka; December 12th, 2005 at 07:24 PM.

December 13th, 2005, 01:55 PM	#15
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Marlon, I liked the film a lot. I liked the characters, your camera direction, and lighting. I'd say in general it was overly long, just really slow paced. Like most of the film was in slow motion (which I think it was). Also, it's a little offputting to have such a long and elaborate opening credit sequence for such a short film. Better just to get to the point. If this were around 10-12 minutes, it really would have been more effective. Kudos to you for pulling together such an ambitious project, though. As for using unlicensed music... posting on an Internet discussion board qualifies as "distribution," so technically it was illegal to post it. My rule of thumb if that if the music isn't licensed, don't post it online, even student projects. As for the thought that any musician would be proud to have his music in the film, I'd say you should really talk to some more musicians. I am one, and I run a record label, and I know for sure we would like to be asked permission first, perhaps compensated a little (your camera wasn't free, why should your music be?), and if we chose not to be involved, to know that you wouldn't use the music without permission. There's lots of cheap, legal music online. You'd be surprised what you can get for free if you ask for it. And surprised what you can get for $5 over at productiontrax.com, etc. Josh __________________ Owner/Operator, 727 Records Co-Founder, Matter of Chance Productions Blogger, Try Avoidance

December 12th, 2005, 12:40 PM	#2
Dain Burroughs Tourist Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2	Nice flick it kept my attention the whole time. did you use magic bullet for the color.

December 12th, 2005, 04:23 PM	#4
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	i only used magic bullet in one scene, the exterior scene where the ribbon exchanges hands, the rest of it was color corrected in premiere pro

December 12th, 2005, 05:31 PM	#6
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	wow, if i can get one person to love it (other than my mom) than its been all worth it, my only goal for the movie was to improve from my first.

December 12th, 2005, 07:24 PM	#8
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	its a student film i did for fun, im not distributing it or submitting it to any festivals and i never claimed that it was my music

December 12th, 2005, 11:52 PM	#9
Bryon Akerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 175	Watched it. Loved it. As for the music.... Didn't bother me. These lovely chaps who get on non-profit student filmmakers for things like this, really need to get out of their editing studios once in a while and remember what it was like to learn the craft and not have EVERYTHING at you fingertips. Now, if I see this for sale at my localy video store, then shame on you, and i take back my kudos and bravos. Keep learning, experimenting, and filming. You have a "gift." Bryon <><

December 13th, 2005, 12:27 AM	#10
Brian Duke Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 899	How did you get the 2:35.1 ascpect (Cinemascope)? Watching it now =)

December 13th, 2005, 06:33 AM	#13
Phil Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Peel,Isle of Man(UK) Posts: 194	Don't let it get you down Marlon (hey,MARLON TORRES, you even sound like a famous director!) I use other peoples music all the time,as long as you aren't selling your stuff then you have nothing to worry about. I think the musician would be proud to hear their music in such a great film.